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    Noob from PA

    Hi Everybody,

    Im new here. I googled " swirls in new car " and your site came up.
    I just took delivery on a 08 Nissan Armada. Looks like it was washed ( or dried ) with sandpaper. The truck is a metallic black. My first black car. I think I made a mistake with the color. I've been back to dealer where I purchased. They say its normal ( although they offered me a free hand wax. I did that already with no luck ) . I dont buy it so I went to another dealer to compare. Same swirls ( or spider webbing ). Is it the paint? I cant imagine that prepping a new vehicle could possibly create this much swirlage everywhere so soon. I am totally disgusted by this and seriously losing sleep. I just need to know if I should learn to live with it ..

    THanks,
    David
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    Re: Noob from PA

    Came to the right place... Read these to get started:

    Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle
    Step 1 Wash
    Step 2 Clean
    Step 3 Polish
    Step 4 Protect
    Step 5 Maintain

    Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

    What it Means to Remove a Scratch

    How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

    1986 Ford Bronco II - Extreme Makeover

    Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

    Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

    Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

    Each one, teach one... Ferrari Fiorano 355 F1 Spider
    2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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      Re: Noob from PA

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        Re: Noob from PA

        Hi David,

        Sorry to say but modern clear coats are very scratch-sensitive and as long as this car is a daily driver you're going to have problems with swirls and scratches. Because it's black it's going to show them easier to your eyes than any other color.

        To prevent them you're going to have to take ownership of the washing process and always use the best car wash and wash mitts as well as drying towels to wash the car.

        Taking he car to a car wash, even if it's a 100% hand car wash is a recipe for swirls and scratches because there's no way the people you're paying to wash your car will ever be as careful as you will be.

        Many of the members on this forum are what we call car crazy and will take over the detailing process besides the car washing process and go as far as to buy a dual action polisher and all the products necessary to detailing their own car and maintain a swirl free finish.

        If this doesn't describe you then the next best thing to do is to either find and hire competent people to wash and detail your car or keep your paint maintained using our new NXT Tech Wax 2.0 which does a remarkable job of eliminating light swirls and scratches so your paint will always look great.

        NXT Tech Wax 2.0






        NXT GENERATION™ TECH WAX™ 2.0
        ——————————————
        NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 is a scientific breakthrough that introduces a new dimension of gloss and protection. Our new and improved formula produces unbelievably deep, vibrant color and a dramatically clear wet-look. Hydrophobic Polymer Technology™ provides relentless water beading and protection against oxidation, corrosion, UV rays and surface degradation. “Hydrophobic” means “water-fearing” and this new breakthrough technology builds such incredible protection and surface tension that water beads up and just glides off your paint finish, wash after wash!

        G12718 18-OZ Liquid wax with applicator MSRP $17.39
        G12711 11-OZ Paste wax with applicator MSRP $17.39
        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com
        "Find something you like and use it often"

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          Re: Noob from PA

          Hi David,

          Welcome

          The threads that Murr1525 posted are a great way to get started, and there is a ton of info there. Please read and digest all that info, and then feel free to post any additonal questions you may have.



          Mike
          Mike Pennington
          Director of Global Training, Events and Consumer Relations
          Meguiar's, Inc.
          800-854-8073
          mpennington@meguiars.com

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            Re: Noob from PA

            Mike summed it up perfectly as usual, and to MOL!

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            • #7
              Re: Noob from PA

              Thanks for your responses ! Would anybody be able to recommend a detail shop in the Phila, PA area. I wouldn't trust myself just yet. I do however do my own washing because I know that I will do it better than the carwash. ( hand car wash of course. )

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                Re: Noob from PA

                since you spent a good 40k~ on the truck.... spend another $300~ on a G110 $150, a few 8006 polishing pads $13/each, 83 $20, 80 $16, NXT 2.0 $18, NXT soap $8, wash mitt $5, few packs of microfiber towels $7/3pack, a few applicator pads $2/2pack....

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                  Re: Noob from PA

                  My wife and I just had a baby girl 8 weeks ago. We also have a 4 yr old. I wish I had the time to do my own detailing. Washes are hard enough ( timewise )
                  I asked for the reccomendations only due to time issues with my growing family.

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                    Re: Noob from PA

                    Be sure to read over that link for the Bronco II... That topped wit hthe Nxt 2.0 Mike showed might be the quickest and most cost effective thing for the moment if you end up doing a detail yourself by hand.

                    Hopefully someone will know about the Phili area.
                    2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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                    • #11
                      Re: Noob from PA

                      I guess you can go look around at detailing businesses in your area and inspect the finish products on a sunny day and see if their work meet your satisfaction.... if they do then give it a try....

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                        Re: Noob from PA

                        Originally posted by davidw View Post
                        Thanks for your responses ! Would anybody be able to recommend a detail shop in the Phila, PA area. I wouldn't trust myself just yet. I do however do my own washing because I know that I will do it better than the carwash. ( hand car wash of course. )
                        We have a new forum for requesting detailing services here,

                        Meguiar's Pro Detailer Wanted

                        Sometimes, if we know a a detailer in your area we'll send them an e-mail with a link to your thread. We also have a Field Rep in your area that may be able to recommend someone.
                        Mike Phillips
                        760-515-0444
                        showcargarage@gmail.com
                        "Find something you like and use it often"

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                          Re: Noob from PA

                          Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                          We have a new forum for requesting detailing services here,

                          Meguiar's Pro Detailer Wanted

                          Sometimes, if we know a a detailer in your area we'll send them an e-mail with a link to your thread. We also have a Field Rep in your area that may be able to recommend someone.
                          Awesome site and feedback. As far as the feild rep, how can I make a connection or do you have them contact me?
                          david@keystonespecialtymetals

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                            Re: Noob from PA

                            DavidW - Same exact thing happened with my car, an 08 Infiniti G35 in black with the dealer installed mandatory cobwebs. First black car and it always has something that could be detailed. Unfortunately, I'm addicted to detailing it now to maintain that gloss and shine. It definitely gets easier after you have a system down. After your first full detail, keeping it up is much easier. Good luck!

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                              Re: Noob from PA

                              Dave,

                              Welcome to MOL!

                              What part of Philadelphia do you live in?

                              Andy
                              101impala
                              Keeping MOL family friendly! If you need help or have a question, don't hesitate to shoot me an email or PM. 101impala@gmail.com
                              Andy M. Moderator

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