Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

[new2detailing]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

I do not have a garage or an enclosed space to detail, so I try to plan to detail in the early am to avoid working with hot panels. Whether or not a product works in directly in the Sun or not, I do not want to bake in the Sun or overstress myself. If that means a detail extends to 2 mornings, then so be it. I am a casual detailer who will do a paid detail occasionally, so I try to do it on my terms.

[ZoranC]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Reading too deep into things is a sure proof way of ending up misinterpreting message as meant into something completely different, taking the ball and running it for many yards, but in the wrong direction.

If we go back to point as meant it is very simple: Here is something you can use in the sun when you have no other way.

Not because you want to work harder, and not smarter, but because that is all you have, whether you like it or not. Nobody polishes in the sun because they enjoy it that way. We do it because that is all we have and we have to deal with it.

If I had a dollar for every time somebody tells me it is much better out of the sun I would have had a garage by now. Considering I still don't I have to deal with what I have and will therefore appreciate any product that lets me work in such conditions because what is other option that is offered to me? Not do it at all until I have garage? That is not an option.

For quite a number of regular Joe Schmoes like me out there that is the reality of deaily living and we appreciate what help us dealing with facts of reality. We carry water in the bucket, we string the extension cord through the window of our apartments and we polish in the sun, and here in Southern California moment sun is up long enough that you don't have to deal with morning mist it is also up long enough that that paint is hot. And by the time you can finish with washing and claying and are ready for polishing it will be hot even more. If one decides to polish only out of the sun then polishing will never happen.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Good point Zoran, and I left out enthusiasts when I wrote this,

That said, we understand that in the mobile detail industry, and even at body shops, sometimes people are forced to work directly in the sun due to lack of space or no cover.

We understand this, but it doesn't change the fact that the best way to work on automotive paints is to work on a cool surface in the shade.

It should have read like this,

That said, we understand that in both the mobile detail business and in the refinishing industry, (body shops), as well as for enthusiasts, sometimes people are forced to work directly in the sun due to lack of space or no shade cover.

We understand this, but it doesn't change the fact that the best way to work on automotive paints is to work on a cool surface in the shade.

It also doesn't mean that a product formulated to work in direct sun on a hot surface won't work better on a cool surface in the shade.

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Good point Zoran, and I left out enthusiasts when I wrote this,



It should have read like this,

That said, we understand that in both the mobile detail business and in the refinishing industry, (body shops), as well as for enthusiasts, sometimes people are forced to work directly in the sun due to lack of space or no shade cover.

We understand this, but it doesn't change the fact that the best way to work on automotive paints is to work on a cool surface in the shade.

It also doesn't mean that a product formulated to work in direct sun on a hot surface won't work better on a cool surface in the shade.

And what if you can't get into shade?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

And what if you can't get into shade?

Then as I've posted hundreds of times... you do the best you can... you shrink the size of your work area down, you use your product heavier or wetter than normal.

Never said you couldn't work in the sun, just tried to explain that even if you have a product that's formulated to work on hot paint in the sun it's still going to work better on a cool surface in the shade.

If that's true, (and it is), then if you can work on a cool surface in the shade then you should work on a cool surface in the shade.

If you can't... then hustle!

For what it's worth, as a mobile detailer I've buffed out cars in the sun. Didn't like it, made EVERYTHING harder, can even dig up the pictures on 35mm to prove it.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

And what if you can't get into shade?

Wear lots of sun screen, drink plenty of water, and match your expectations accordingly! No product (that I am aware of) is optimally used in the sun...so as Mike is trying to convey, you *can* work in the sun if you *have* to...but realize it likely won't be the best of experiences regardless of the products you choose.

That's my take anyway.

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Wear lots of sun screen, drink plenty of water, and match your expectations accordingly! No product (that I am aware of) is optimally used in the sun...so as Mike is trying to convey, you *can* work in the sun if you *have* to...but realize it likely won't be the best of experiences regardless of the products you choose.

That's my take anyway.

I'll be evaluating the product in question, and see what results I get.

[ZoranC]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Good point Zoran

Thank you!

If you can't... then hustle!

I loved that movie!

[ZoranC]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

I'll be evaluating the product in question, and see what results I get.

Seeing for oneself is always the best approach.

[AeroCleanse]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

And it doesn't get as hot here as it does in AZ or SoCal

[wazid]

Re: Working in the sun? How HOT does your car's paint get?

Applying carcare chemicals on a hot surface on the car is a classic mistake, also in Sweden.
Thinking of how the concentration of chemicals increases when the water evaporates, it is not surprising that one can get problems with the surface on the car.

I also measured the temperature of a car paint last summer. 67 degrees Centigrade (152 Fahrenheit) on the hood, which is blue metallic, and 83 degrees Centigrade (181 Fahrenheit) on the steering wheel!
That is hot!

But right now it is more of a freezing problem in Sweden;-)

//David