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  • ctx
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    Re: Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    Originally posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Ehh... it can be tried if needed... but you start to risk the fabric leaving its own marks behind. A small test spot can be tried if needed. Definitely fold it over some so you dont get pressure points.

    Its not as if another brand couldnt be used if you can find something.



    Well, also a smaller tube...

    Its up to you. You can adjust the strength of the UC (and ScratchX 2.0) by changing how much pressure, speed, passion, etc you apply them with. So even if you go with the stronger product, you can start off applying more gently, and work up.



    As noted above, just use some common sense. Dont put a little drop on your finger and force it into one tiny spot of the paint. Put a circle on your applicator, spread it over a 10" or so square, and work it in evenly. You'll need to use some passion, but dont grind it into the paint. Start off lighter, let the product do the work. And you can always start on a back fender...
    Sorry, I was typing very late into the night and didn't notice. Thanks again for your insight, I've put off buying a product, as I'm still not 100% sure on which product would best suit my car's paint. The swirls are awful and scratches and scuffs are everywhere. I'm just worried if Ultimate Compound is too aggressive for my application?

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  • Murr1525
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    Re: Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    Hey Murr, thanks for the reply. I can't actually try SwirlX since it's not for sale locally (I haven't looked properly but) Would a microfiber cloth do the job? I'm not 100% if the store stocks Meguiars foam applicators.
    Ehh... it can be tried if needed... but you start to risk the fabric leaving its own marks behind. A small test spot can be tried if needed. Definitely fold it over some so you dont get pressure points.

    Its not as if another brand couldnt be used if you can find something.

    If ScratchX 2.0 and Ultimate Compound are fairly similar, would be better to get ScratchX 2.0 instead? It's $10 cheaper than Ultimate Compound.
    Well, also a smaller tube...

    Its up to you. You can adjust the strength of the UC (and ScratchX 2.0) by changing how much pressure, speed, passion, etc you apply them with. So even if you go with the stronger product, you can start off applying more gently, and work up.

    But I guess I should go for Ultimate Compound, as this spill on my hood is absolutely hideous and you can spot it from a mile away on a sunny day. I just don't want to potentially ruin my paintjob by using something so aggressive and abrasive as Ultimate Compound, as I still have much to learn in detailing. I'm not sure what to do, what do you suggest?
    As noted above, just use some common sense. Dont put a little drop on your finger and force it into one tiny spot of the paint. Put a circle on your applicator, spread it over a 10" or so square, and work it in evenly. You'll need to use some passion, but dont grind it into the paint. Start off lighter, let the product do the work. And you can always start on a back fender...

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  • ctx
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    Re: Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    Originally posted by Murr1525 View Post
    You can look at a milder product like SwirlX for instance, but sounds like you will probably end up with Ult. Compound.

    Just be sure to use a good smooth foam applicator, and good technique. (hold pad flat under fingers/palm, not fingertips, work a foot square or so, etc)



    ScratchX and UC are fairly similar.



    You'll want a clean surface, so at least washing. You would only need to clay if the surface feels rough after washing. If it doesnt need clayed, then it doesnt need it.


    Hmm...

    UC wont hurt to try...

    Hey Murr, thanks for the reply. I can't actually try SwirlX since it's not for sale locally (I haven't looked properly but) Would a microfiber cloth do the job? I'm not 100% if the store stocks Meguiars foam applicators.

    If ScratchX 2.0 and Ultimate Compound are fairly similar, would be better to get ScratchX 2.0 instead? It's $10 cheaper than Ultimate Compound. But I guess I should go for Ultimate Compound, as this spill on my hood is absolutely hideous and you can spot it from a mile away on a sunny day. I just don't want to potentially ruin my paintjob by using something so aggressive and abrasive as Ultimate Compound, as I still have much to learn in detailing. I'm not sure what to do, what do you suggest?

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  • Murr1525
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    Re: Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    What I'm asking, then, is what should I do to remove these swirls and scratches/scuffs? I was thinking of using Meguiar's Ultimate Compound to clean up the swirls, scratches and scuffs all at once with a single product, but I've read several threads that go against using the Ultimate compound first. I'm relatively new to car detailing, and my clay bar and wax job last month was my first time doing some form of detailing.
    You can look at a milder product like SwirlX for instance, but sounds like you will probably end up with Ult. Compound.

    Just be sure to use a good smooth foam applicator, and good technique. (hold pad flat under fingers/palm, not fingertips, work a foot square or so, etc)

    Would it be a better option to use Meguiar's ScratchX 2.0? The description says that it removes scratches and swirls, so would it be better for me to achieve the results I want with this less-aggressive product?
    ScratchX and UC are fairly similar.

    Also, would I need to clay bar my car again to prep the surface for swirl and scratch removal? Would I need to wash the car first before undertaking this?
    You'll want a clean surface, so at least washing. You would only need to clay if the surface feels rough after washing. If it doesnt need clayed, then it doesnt need it.
    If I may ask one more question, I've got this hideous spill on the hood of my car. I can't think of anything to remove it. Would Ultimate Compound or ScratchX 2.0 help remove, or at least lessen the effect of this spill? Can anyone identify what it is? I've asked around and everyone's at a complete loss as to what it is that caused it. It kind of looks like the paint has cracked as a result - it looks very nasty. Although, it doesn't feel any different to any other surfaces on the car, it's just a visual thing.
    Hmm...

    UC wont hurt to try...

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  • joscratch
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    Re: Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    I've been approached with some interesting projects as of late. A customer came to me with a 2008 Mercedes S550 (white) with an overspray problem - it was parked in a body shop - happened to be next to someone who was spraying a car outside the paint booth - caused tremendous overspray all over the S-class. Not obvious, until you touched it, and looked through the windows.

    I clay-barred the entire car - including the windows. Followed the clay-barring with # 85 on the hood and trunk - first with the red aggressive soft-buff pad, then followed by the yellow pad (they had significant scratches as well) and completed with # 80, then sealed with #21. The car came out silky-smooth, and a shine that was blinding. Customer was extremely happy all-way-'round.

    Meguiars products are incredible. I put them up against the "Mother's Lovers" all the time - and they eventually switch!

    Happy detailing! Hope all is well with you.

    Regards,

    Joseph Pandolfo (Jo'Scratch Restorations)
    Oceanside, NY

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  • ctx
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    Need some advice on swirl and scratch removal

    Hey guys, I've got a little bit of a situation. About a month ago, I clay-bar'ed and waxed my car, using Meguiar's products. I was very impressed with the results. A month down the track, although the wax is holding up very nicely, the weather is improving which revealed my car to be a myriad of swirls. Just about every portion of the body is covered in swirls and random scratches from regular use as well as some scuffing from using a car cover.

    What I'm asking, then, is what should I do to remove these swirls and scratches/scuffs? I was thinking of using Meguiar's Ultimate Compound to clean up the swirls, scratches and scuffs all at once with a single product, but I've read several threads that go against using the Ultimate compound first. I'm relatively new to car detailing, and my clay bar and wax job last month was my first time doing some form of detailing.

    Also, if I may add, my car is black. The paint is also 12 years old but holding up strong, albeit swirls and scratches.

    Would it be a better option to use Meguiar's ScratchX 2.0? The description says that it removes scratches and swirls, so would it be better for me to achieve the results I want with this less-aggressive product?

    If it also helps, I plan to do this job by hand, since I can't readily find a place that sells a buffer. I plan on buying one of these products tomorrow from my local automotive store, for which these two happen to be the only ones available.

    Also, would I need to clay bar my car again to prep the surface for swirl and scratch removal? Would I need to wash the car first before undertaking this?

    If I may ask one more question, I've got this hideous spill on the hood of my car. I can't think of anything to remove it. Would Ultimate Compound or ScratchX 2.0 help remove, or at least lessen the effect of this spill? Can anyone identify what it is? I've asked around and everyone's at a complete loss as to what it is that caused it. It kind of looks like the paint has cracked as a result - it looks very nasty. Although, it doesn't feel any different to any other surfaces on the car, it's just a visual thing.



    I apologise for the awful picture, but I had to put a cloth over the area and take a picture at the same time in order for my camera to capture it.

    Hopefully I'm not asking too much, but I'm heading out tomorrow to buy one of these products and am lost as to which one to buy. Thanks for anything you guys can give me!

    Edit: Sorry, I should mention, I'm not after a flawless, impeccable show-car finish. I'm just after removing swirls and a few ugly scratches. I'm not too fussed if it doesn't remove everything 100% but I at least want to get rid of the swirls as they're extremely visible in a black car. So I'm not after the perfect finish. Thanks again
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