What would happen if I were to use m4 Heavy Cut Compound on paint or on headlights by hand? There is an auto parts store that sells this and m1 medium Cut Cleaner and wanted to know what would happen upon hand application. Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by coopers23 View PostWhat would happen if I were to use m4 Heavy Cut Compound on paint or on headlights by hand? There is an auto parts store that sells this and m1 medium Cut Cleaner and wanted to know what would happen upon hand application. Thanks in advance.Nick
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M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner uses diminishing abrasives that start out fairly large in size but break down under the shear and heat of a rotary buffer. They do not, however, break down to an ultra fine polish like some other diminishing abrasives do, and they really do need the power of a rotary in order to be properly utilized. Hand application won't break down these diminishing abrasives sufficiently, resulting in a very high probability of hazed or even scoured paint. Potentially heavily so, depending on the paint itself.
Products that utilize SMAT (super micro abrasive technology) are much more suitable to fast cutting by hand. M105 and even its consumer derivative, Ultimate Compound, will yield far superior results by hand than will M04, whether working on paint or headlight lenses. Ultimate Compound can generally be found at most larger auto parts stores.Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
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Originally posted by coopers23 View PostThanks, you just saved me a heartache. Would the same be true for M01 Medium Cut Cleaner?
What exactly are you working on and looking to achieve with these, or any substitute product?Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.
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I am working to remove some nasty swirls and scratches that were inflicted when my sister started using a very hard bristled snow brush on my care. It is a 2008 Chili Red Mini CooperS and I did not know she would do such a thing. I know images would be helpful, but as I said in another post, my camera is broken and I need to borrow one from someone or get a new one. Basically, just imagine something that is filled with swirls and a few RIDS from when she was rubbing the zipper of her jacket against the paint. This plus my car cover story from my previous post has left a lot of swirling and I wanted to know the best way to remove them. Of course, I am going to have to wait about another month for the weather to warm up. Thank you for all your help!Tedrow's Detailing
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BTW, I have UC and Swirlx but the owner of an auto parts store near me showed me M04 and M01 and told me I could use them by hand. I was skeptical and thats why I asked. I was trying to see if there was a more efficient method. Thank again everyone!Tedrow's Detailing
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Originally posted by coopers23 View PostBTW, I have UC and Swirlx but the owner of an auto parts store near me showed me M04 and M01 and told me I could use them by hand. I was skeptical and thats why I asked. I was trying to see if there was a more efficient method. Thank again everyone!
Just be sure to do a test spot before rubbing out the whole car.Nick
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Originally posted by coopers23 View PostBTW, I have UC and Swirlx but the owner of an auto parts store near me showed me M04 and M01 and told me I could use them by hand. I was skeptical and thats why I asked. I was trying to see if there was a more efficient method. Thank again everyone!Originally posted by Tuck91 View PostUltimate Compound and SwirlX will be a lot safer to use by hand than M04 and M01.
Just be sure to do a test spot before rubbing out the whole car.
Having said that, there are guys out there who have been using the same products for decades and are getting great results. They have a process so dialed in that, even if something newer and more efficient comes along, they won't switch because it's different. And different means learning a new process or technique, and these guys are just too set in their ways. And honestly, there really isn't anything wrong with that.Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.
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