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  • Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

    Just a quick note, the below is an article I created to share with others the importance of capturing the "before" shots, before doing an extreme makeover. In an effort to show the idea behind this idea I borrowed pictures originally posted in the below extreme makeover and then added a few more.

    1960 Ford Ranchero - Extreme Makeover - M105/M205 Tag Team


    Once you polish out the paint you can always get the "after" pictures, but it will be impossible to go back in time and take the "before" pictures. So get them while you can!




    The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

    In my life I've had the good fortune to work on a lot of cool cars and with a lot of cool people for which I'm always very thankful for. I've also had the good fortune to work on a lot of very neglected cars, some special interest and some not but to the owner it was alway important and when it's important to the owner then it's important to me.

    One of the things I've learned when doing dramatic extreme makeovers, whether on oxidized single stage paints or swirled-out clear coats, is the importance of capturing great before shots.

    One of the biggest problems with capturing a great before shot is someone, not understanding the value in the before shot and all it's ugliness, will take some kind of paint polishing product and make a clean, shiny spot in an otherwise really neglected and ugly panel like the hood or the trunk-lid. These types of panels make the best before and after shots because they are usually large, they are usually in the worst shape, you can look down on them, or in this case take an overhead shot of them, and the hood is specifically the panel that gets the most attention from car enthusiasts.

    So over the years when I've discussed doing future extreme makeovers on project cars with the owners I've always stressed the importance of not touching the paint till AFTER we get the before shots.

    It's just so uncanny that if you don't bring this topic up, then sometime before you arrive at the car's location or the car is brought to your location, someone and their good intentions will do you the favor of rubbing something smack dab in the middle of the hood and make a shiny spot and ruin the before pictures.

    Anyway, a couple of years ago while scheduling an Extreme Makeover, I wrote this little sentence that I think states the concept very clearly and wanted to post it in it's own thread with a time stamp for others to learn from and hopefully explain the "why" behind the idea...

    So here it is and you can quote me on this,

    "If you ever do an extreme makeover on a car or some other project, remember the power in the after shots is created in the before shots"

    So do your best to get GREAT before shots before bringing your hand or your polisher down onto the paint and making a shiny spot. And try to educate the owner if there's going to be time passing before the project is scheduled to also not take any action until after the before shots area captured. Just as a precaution. Better safe than sorry.


    Often times I'll see a great write-up on a spectacular and dramatic before and after project and the detailer will say something like,

    "Sorry I didn't get any before pictures"

    This happens all the time. It's happened to me because I didn't have a camera handy or the batteries were dead.

    So just a note to anyone reading this, if you ever do an extreme makeover on something cool or special interest, remember, the power is in the before pictures, so make plans to capture them before buffing on the car.



    Here's an example,

    I met this gentleman at our local Autozone and mentioned to him that his car was a great candidate for an extreme makeover; explained the process and gave him my phone number and in our conversation I let him know the importance of not making a shiny spot on the hood.

    I figured like most people he'll never call. A few months later this guy calls me and reminds me of the car and asks if I still want to use it for an extreme makeover? Let's me know he's going to take his Dad along for an upcoming car cruise and car show.

    I asked him,

    Have you worked on it at all?

    He said no

    So I said, bring it on over and we'll buff it out till it shines like a diamond, which he did. Anyway, it's just a nice old Ford and it was fun to polish out. I was just happy he didn't rub some kind of compound in the middle of the hood in the months between when I met him at Autozone and the day he brought it over.

    He purchased this 1960 Ford Ranchero off eBay in running condition for $900.00 and has been tinkering on it in his spare time while using it as a daily driver back and forth to the cement plant where he works. So the paint sits out in the Mojave Desert sun and bakes with a coating of all kinds of dust from the cement plant landing on it.

    Before


    One half covered and taped-off


    Before and after results


    After




    A few more from this Extreme Makeover












    From the back...










    Some more of the hood,













    The roof was white in some places due to extreme oxidation.





    Note the problem with modern clear coats is swirls while the problem with older single stage paints is oxidation. It's not that modern clear coats won't oxidize it's just that process takes a lot longer and the more visual and noticeable problem is swirls.

    I took over a hundred pictures, here's a few more random shots...




















    One of the problems most detailers run into when taking before and after pictures is that projects like this take all day, that is the machine compounding, polishing and waxing usually takes anywhere from 6 to 14 hours depending upon how bad the paint is, how fast you are at what you do and how important the project it.

    If the project is very important most detailers will slow down and pay more attention to each square inch as they polish the paint to perfection. A production detailer can buff out a car about as fast as they can walk around the car so there's a wide spectrum as to how much time a buff-out like the above will take and a lot of it depends upon the detailer. I think I had about 6-7 hours into this project and the owner helped throughout the process except for the rotary buffer steps.

    Normally we would reach for M80 Speed Glaze as it will usually do a good job of chewing off the dead, oxidized paint from a single stage finish when used with a wool pad and a rotary buffer while gorging the paint with same type of polishing oils found in M07 but instead we used M105 with a rotary buffer and a wool cutting pad followed by M205 using a W-8000 foam polishing pad on a rotary buffer and it worked like a charm.

    We did the optional step of re-polishing the single stage paint using M07 Show Car Glaze to really gorge the paint with the high concentration of polishing oils found in M07 and then sealed the paint using NXT Tech Wax Paste version 1.0 (That's what I had in the garage).

    After we got into it the owner commented how he wasn't aware how involved we were going to get as he thought we were just going to wax it.


    Products Used
    M105/W5500/RB - 1500 RPM
    M205/W-8000/RB - 1500 RPM
    M07/W-8006/DA - 5.0 Speed Setting
    NXT/W9207/DA - 4.0 Speed Setting


    Friendly suggestion...
    Anytime you find yourself in a position to buff out something interesting or unique, do your best to get the before pictures. While the after pictures make the car look its best, it's the before pictures that show how you took a diamond in the rough and turned it into a glistening gemstone.


    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

  • #2
    Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

    Nice post and great advise. Nothing worse than getting done and realizing you didn't take any before pictures.

    Colin
    A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

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    • #3
      Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

      great advice.. thats certaintly a great tutorial :]
      Ganesa,
      Toyota Vios '05

      Theres a difference in a person who has to do it and a person who wants to do it

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      • #4
        Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

        Great advice, Mike.
        quality creates its own demand

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        • #5
          Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

          LMAO at the Twister pad on the hood!!!


          Very helpful info Mike! I know when I look back at some of my first before and after write ups now I'm like....
          Rasky's Auto Detailing

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          • #6
            Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

            Very interesting and good advice. I love before and after pictures.

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            • #7
              Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

              I learned the value of before and after pictures when bringing back my 1971 RS/SS 350 Camaro from the brink of the crusher. The find was in terrible shape and almost 8 years later it was hard to remember all the things that needed work. I almost forgot until I found the before shots that I took of the car. Wow would be an understatement. Even to this day, I display the picture book at some shows and I see people look up at the Camaro and then back to the pictures in disbelief.

              My only regret would be that I did not take enough before pictures!

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              • #8
                Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

                While sometimes it just doesnt happen, I like having a good before shot o r two in my writeups:









                Nick
                Tucker's Detailing Services
                815-954-0773
                2012 Ford Transit Connect

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                • #9
                  Re: Tip: The power in the after shots is created in the before shots

                  Mama-mia


                  thanks

                  i just loves to see your work...
                  your the man

                  TUck, thanks for chipping in again....yr pic will tells more than a thousand words

                  keep it up & keep it spinning
                  it only takes a little patience and plenty of PASSION!!

                  detailing blog

                  http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

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