M105 Tip

[AeroCleanse]

I found this tip in a round about way, but I'm posting the link to it. I've had less than spectacular results with M105 and a wool pad on 2 white cars.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/112746-2-passes-m105-wool-no-luck.html

[BlueZero]

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Some good information there. I bookmarked that thread. Thanks for sharing!

[Forever New]

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Wow, great results on that Honda with Kevins advice.

[J. A. Michaels]

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Very helpful. Thanks for sharing it. I also have bookmarked it for future reference. Thanks a lot.

[H.E.D]

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thanks! very useful information will take notes!

[Justin Murphy]

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Wow that little process by Keving ought to be stickied or maybe just put on 105's label!

Thanks for this.

[yalerd]

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Saving on my head!
I've talked with Kevin before and man he knows a lot of stuff!!!

[Tom Weed]

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I found this tip in a round about way, but I'm posting the link to it. I've had less than spectacular results with M105 and a wool pad on 2 white cars.

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...l-no-luck.html

I saw that thread when Kevin posted it, shortly after I tried this with a wool solo pad and 151 and it worked like a charm...

[Mike Phillips]

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From page 3 of the thread, the OP, (Original Poster), comes back after putting Kevin's advice into practice

THIS PROCESS WORKS!!!! Thank you so much waxman! I did exactly as you said, prime the pad thoroughly, laid about a 5-6" bead down, 1000rpm, worked until drying, then spritz with water, and keep going until it finished down. Worked flawlessly!

Here the results:
BEFORE:


After several different processes including 2 passes with M105/Wool(normal), 2 passes with SIP/Wool, SIP/Orange, SIP/White..NOTHING WORKED!



Now after ONE "pass" using new process from iamwaxman, followed by 106FA/white:
The light is out of focus because I had it to show the swirls not a perfect reflection of light..

Just proves the point that besides choosing the right product using good technique is equally important of a factor. Kevin knows as well as anyone that's used M105 correctly what the product is capable of doing when used correctly. The swirls and scratches in the before picture look completely removable by M105 with a wool pad and a rotary buffer if used correctly and the above copied and pasted conversations proves that point.

Besides that, whenever you're new to a product just because it doesn't work the first time doesn't mean the product doesn't work, it may mean you need to spend some more time with it as practice makes perfect. Over the years we've had many people come to this forum saying the bought ScratchX and couldn't get it to work, then through this forum we help to tweak their technique and see them through to success. Also just goes to show how valuable the helpful members of a forum can be.

Hat's off to Kevin for seeing that forum member through to success...

It's in keeping with our forum philosophy of,

"Each one teach one"

[RDVT4ME]

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As Mike stated above....TECHNIQUE IS EVERYTHING

[Tom Weed]

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Would this be the result of the micro abrasives that are left which are on the wool pad and paint being lubricated and used again since they dont break down?

When I did tried this with 151 and a Solo Wool pad, I was buffing the car with 151, thought it looked okay, but after misting the pad with Last Touch and rebuffing, the surface area looked much better.

Which of the products can be used in this fashion?

[Mike Phillips]

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Would this be the result of the micro abrasives that are left which are on the wool pad and paint being lubricated and used again since they don't break down?

Theoretically since the abrasives don't break down, (at least not like diminishing abrasives break-down), then re-wetting the surface is simply re-lubricating the surface which enables you to continue buffing with the same abrasives already on the surface longer.

Keep in mind that besides the abrasives there are other chemicals and ingredients in our paint care products that are being used up and of course your generating removed paint into the mix as a part of abrading the paint. Also keep in mind that adding a liquid to the mix can affect the other ingredients in any product. So at some point you do want to stop buffing, wipe the residue off, clean your pad and start fresh.

Another mantra we teach people at all our classes and on this forum is to...

"Always work clean"


I'll see if we can get an official position on this practice posted today...

[Justin Murphy]

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The only thing is, what about the people that purchase 105 and used it the wrong way without knowing about the internet? A lot do not go on here. Should this method actually be put on the label as instructions?

[Mike Phillips]

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Should this method actually be put on the label as instructions?

I'll see if we can get an official position on this practice posted today...

Patience...

[Justin Murphy]

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Sorry Mike..........Didn't see your earlier post!
Just wish I had known about this technique....uh.......about 5 months ago!

Will it still work with the "new" 105?