Makita 9227C

[chevy_ss]

Hi . Just want to know the speed I've to set with waxing .

my products that I'll use are

What speed should I use ?
I'll be useing the orignal wool buffer from makita . Is it ok ?


thanx

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: Makita 9227C

Well, I'm pretty sure that the Cleaner Wax is not designed for the rotary. The NXT wax is not designed for the rotary.

Here are some substitutions that are rotary compatible:

#66 - Quick Detailer - I'm assuming you wanted something that protects and has some cleaning power.

#21 - Synthetic Sealant - This is very similar to NXT, but it is rotary compatible.



As far as pads go, you probably don't want to use the wool pad it came with for applying a protectant. It's simply too aggressive. A wool pad will work with #66, but holograms become an issue.

Pad suggestions:

#66 - W8006 Polishing pad or W9006 Finishing pad - most likely to use the Polishing pad for swirl removal.

#21 - W8006 Polishing pad or W9006 Finishing pad - Unless you want to remove the lightest of swirls, the Finishing pad is going to be the one to use.

[chevy_ss]

Re: Makita 9227C

thanx bro .. that's a very useful post

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Makita 9227C

Just to add...

Buffing out a car with a rotary buffer is a huge job and in most case the reason for using the rotary buffer isn't to apply the wax but to remove defects.

In most cases it's at least a 2 step process, that means going around the car at least twice with the rotary buffer to remove the defects and then moving on to the waxing step.

For most people, the rotary buffer is to extreme for what they want to do and what they are able to do.

What are you working on?
What are you trying to accomplish?

[chevy_ss]

Re: Makita 9227C

I'm just a begginer try to clean his car ...

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Makita 9227C

I'm just a beginner try to clean his car ...

If you're just getting into detailing, lets start out with the basics and master the techniques for working by hand.

How to use a cleaner/wax as a paint cleaner and top with an LSP
If you already have Meguiar's cleaner wax, (ColorX or Meguiar's Cleaner/wax), and NXT Tech Wax, (Or Gold Class, DCCW, M26, M16, Medallion, here's a way to use them to maximize the paint you're working on if you don't have a dedicated paint cleaner or cleaner/polish.

First it's best to wash the car and then inspect the paint to see if it needs to be clayed, to do this, simply wash and dry the car and then you your clean hand to feel the horizontal surfaces like the hood, roof or trunk lid. The paint should feel smooth and glassy, if you feel any kind of texture such as little bumps, this is a sign your paint has what Meguiar's calls above surface bonded contaminants and the most effective way to remove these is by using detailing clay to clay your paint.

A paint cleaner and a cleaner/wax can be used and will remove some bonded contaminants, but the most effective way to remove them all is to clay the paint using quality detailing clay.

As for using the two waxes you have, a lot of people will use one of our cleaner/waxes for it's cleaning ability to clean the paint instead of using a paint cleaner and then after using the cleaner/wax as their paint cleaner they would then apply the NXT Tech Wax over this to add more protection and in most cases also take the quality of the finish to and even higher level. The reason they do this is often times because that's what's available to them as we do make dedicated paint cleaners and cleaner/polishes that are specifically for cleaning paint.

If you are going to do this, (use a cleaner/wax as you paint cleaner and then apply a different type of wax afterwards), then remember your end-results are always decided by the surface prep step and that's the claying and cleaning steps. As this relates to you... this means that your end results are going to be determined by how well you apply and work the cleaner/wax.

When using a cleaner/wax for your cleaning step, part of the cleaning comes from the cleaners in the product, part of the cleaning action comes from your choice of applicator material, (when working by hand this is typically, either foam, microfiber or cotton), and the passion you put behind the pad.

So the cleaner/wax should be worked firmly and make sure you have plenty of product on the paint, you want to work wet, not dry. Only work a small to medium section at at time, for example about a 12" to 18" square area or smaller if a smaller area is easier for you to work. Point being don't try to tackle too large an area at one time or you likely won't work the entire area as thoroughly as it needs, so keep your work area to a manageable size, something you can work your product over so that you firmly and equally work each square inch of the section you're cleaning.

When you move onto a new section, overlap into the previous sections.

Continue this until you finish a panel, (like an entire hood), or until you go over the entire car.

You can either allow the wax to dry, or remove as you work around the car. Since this is not your LSP, (Last Step Product, usually a wax or paint sealant), then it really doesn't matter too much as you're going to be maximizing the protection in the next step.


After you use the cleaner/wax to clean and polish the paint and have wiped the dried residue off the car, next apply a thin coat of the NXT Tech Wax.

If you did the cleaning step correctly, that is if you did the work step correctly, then the waxing step, or as it fits into Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle, Step 4 Protecting, this will be fast and easy because now you're not trying to work the product, (you already did this), now you're just trying to apply, spread out and gently work-in a thin coating of wax.




How to apply a thin coat of wax

• Get a few clean, soft high quality wax applicator pads
  
• If you're using a liquid wax, shake the bottle well first.
  
• Pour some wax about the size of a teaspoon/tablespoon onto your applicator pad.
  
  Note: The amount of wax you apply to your applicator pad should be just enough to work and leave behind a thin coating, usually when you start out and your applicator pad is dry, you'll want to add a little more because some of the wax is going to soak into the pad. After you break in your pad, that is after it begins to saturate you'll find a little wax goes a long way as it's not readily soaking into the pad. The the reason we wrote to apply about a teaspoon to a tablespoon onto your applicator pad when you first start out.
  
• Pick a place to start, (usually most people work from the top down) and begin spreading the wax out over a small section.
  
• You can do this anyway you like but what works best is to make circle motions, thoughtfully working the wax out by making ever-creeping circular motions. Personal preference how you do this as Meguiar's teaches that as long as you're using clean applicator pads, the surface is clean to start with and your product is non-abrasive, then you won't instill swirls and scratches into the paint therefore it doesn't matter which way you move your hand.
  
• Spread the wax out over a small to medium size section, a foot square or so is good, (it's not rocket science), your goal is to spread-out your wax and then gently massage the paint in the section your working, make 2-3 passes over each square inch of this section. This would be spreading the product out first to get it spread out, now that it's covering the area you're waxing take and make circle motions in back an forth, or front to back or any pattern you like as long as you massage the wax gently over each square inch of this section in a way that glides the wax over the paint.

Now continue around the car applying, gently massaging the wax over the paint with two to three passes over each square inch working section by section. Alway overlap into the previous section. Do this until you've gone over the entire painted surfaces of the car.

Allow this coating of NXT Tech Wax to dry for anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes depending upon temperature, humidity and how thick or thin your coating is. Remember, all you want is a thin, uniform coating on the paint, not a thick layer.

Meguiar's teaches the technique we call The Swipe Test



As soon as the wax swipes clear, go ahead and start wiping the dried residue off.

Start where you started when you first applied the wax and then follow your path of travel as you originally applied the wax.

Use only clean, soft, quality microfiber polishing cloths to remove the dried wax. Keep your microfiber polishing cloth folded 4-ways, this will provide some cushion between your hand pressure and the paint as well as give you 8 sides to wipe with.

After you wipe the car off you can if you like, get a fresh, clean soft microfiber polishing cloth and give the paint one more final wipe, this should be a very soft, gentle wipe to remove any trace residues. You can try this technique.

Final Wiping Techniques


If you've done everything correctly you can stand back and admire the results.

[chevy_ss]

Re: Makita 9227C

well defiantly my car body needs claying ... I'm conserdering claying as main part of opreation.


I hope I get the time to apply the full detail to my car .. I'm gonna post results and let u to say ur word


thnx for the very imporant and for every detail u gave me ..