Round 1 ....83 vs me

[rundatrack]

Well I have learned that it isnt good to put 83 on a warm hood....it gummed up something fierce with my rotary at 1500...and gummed up with my PC at 5....


So round 1

83 win
Me Lose...

[Murr1525]

Well, depending on how bad the paint problems are, you can certainly back of a little bit to a setting of 3 or 4 as well... try a cooler hood and a lower setting to keep that from happening.

[rundatrack]

Originally posted by Murr1525
Well, depending on how bad the paint problems are, you can certainly back of a little bit to a setting of 3 or 4 as well... try a cooler hood and a lower setting to keep that from happening.

Thanks that is this weekends project.....

[1BadMach1]

You guys are scaring me, I just bought my first bottle of 83. My black Mach 1 has water spots the size of the state of Maine on the hood, roof and deck lid. If I do gum it up what should I use to get it off. Should I clay the car before I use the 83 even though I have clayed 1 or 2 times this year allready? Maybe I should try it on my girlfriends car first.

[Murr1525]

Sacrifice the GF's car for the cause...

But gumming up doesnt mean ruing your paint... in most cases, adding a bit more product should solve the problem. And when in doubt, wipe it off and check on here for answers.

You will have to evaluate the surface yourself to see if it needs clayed... If you can fell the tiny bumps, then it should be clayed.

You have had experience with #80? #83 is slightly trickier to use, gims up a little easier. As I said, nothing that will damage your car, but may take a couple tries to get the feel for. And espeacialy if your have experience with #80, you'll be ok.

[rundatrack]

Originally posted by Murr1525
Sacrifice the GF's car for the cause...

But gumming up doesnt mean ruing your paint... in most cases, adding a bit more product should solve the problem. And when in doubt, wipe it off and check on here for answers.

You will have to evaluate the surface yourself to see if it needs clayed... If you can fell the tiny bumps, then it should be clayed.

You have had experience with #80? #83 is slightly trickier to use, gims up a little easier. As I said, nothing that will damage your car, but may take a couple tries to get the feel for. And espeacialy if your have experience with #80, you'll be ok.

This is my first time with the product so I was expecting some challenges...no biggie....

I need to block outta couple hours ...and just getthe hang of it...

[RamAirV1]

Just don't use it on a hot hood and you'll be OK. And follow up th e#83 with some #80.

RamAirV1

[1BadMach1]

The girlfriends car is in my sights for the weekend. I'll try it on hers first. This is my first go around with the 80's series. But I have quite a bit of detailing experience. I used Scratch X on some of the worse spots, but to be honest, I want to get it done a lot quicker. Is there anything I can put on that car to keep it from spotting so bad. I used to keep th Mach in the garage but the girlfriend has the garage full to the gills with her stuff. Maybe I should get rid of the girlfriend.

[Murr1525]

The best way to keep it from getting scratched/swirled/spotted is to put it in an air tight chamber and leave it there and never touch it.

The next best option is to keep a good coat of wax on it. If you do the 5-steps:
1. Wash with good soap and quality mits/towels
2. Clay
3. Clean with #83/#80
4. Polish (Optional)
4. Wax with Nxt, or #21, etc..

and then add a coat of Nxt Spray wax after each wash, you will get the minimum amount of swirls and spots possible. Some will always happen. But in the future, #80 should be able to remove the minor things, because nothing big will have gotten there that requires #83.

Also, if you live in an area with hard water, be sure to use the Nxt Wash.

[1BadMach1]

Thanks for the tips, I have hard water, very hard water. It is a constant battle, it seems I have acid rain too. I should just buy a car cover and be done with it.

[Mike Phillips]

When using M83, there are three things you can do to reduce the potential for having the product become gummy.

* Don't overuse the product

* Wipe off any previously applied residue before applying more

* Clean you foam pad often with either a nylon brush like a tooth brush, or hold a terry cloth towel into the foam as you bring up the RPM's

[rundatrack]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
When using M83, there are three things you can do to reduce the potential for having the product become gummy.

* Don't overuse the product

* Wipe off any previously applied residue before applying more

* Clean you foam pad often with either a nylon brush like a tooth brush, or hold a terry cloth towel into the foam as you bring up the RPM's

I made htat X in the pad like in one of your photos...

I feel that the hood may have been too hot....give it another shot soon...

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by rundatrack
I made that X in the pad like in one of your photos...

I feel that the hood may have been too hot....give it another shot soon...

After applying the product to the pad and then placing the face of the pad in contact with the finish, spread the product out over the area you're going to work, (to spread the product out), and then slow down and begin to work the product using the techniques outlined here...

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

[rusty bumper]

NXT car wash is a good choice for people with hard water.

I know what you mean about water spots. I detailed a black Ford Explorer with nothing but water spots on the hood. It had so many water spots, that the hood looked like a piece of mica! It seems that the former owners had hard water too.

It took many passes with DACP in order to remove most of them. But I never had any problems with the product gumming up though.

[1BadMach1]

I'll be ok using terry cloth instead of foam?