Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

[Ralph III]

Hello,
What is the major differences in the Meguiars DA buffers? I just need something for occasional polishing/waxing so will the G110v2 serve well for that and what about the power cord issues? Also, does Meguiars have a refurb program?

Thanks,
Ralph

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

The biggest difference between the two tools is that the G110v2 is no longer being made. OK, that was a bit of a smarty pants response.... but it's true!


Here's the real low down:

• Weight: the MT300 is marginally lighter than the G110v2, but it's better balanced which almost makes it feel lighter. This can also be said when comparing the MT300 to other typical DA tools on the market (PC, Griot's, HF, etc)
• Speed range: the MT300 will spin as high as 7500 OPM where as the G110v2 maxes out at 6800 OPM. In reality, that's not as big a deal as it sounds - speed is important, but it's not the be-all end-all requirement of a tool.
• Vibration/feel: the MT300 is a fantastically smooth operating tool, much more so than the PC, G110v2, HF and especially the Griot's. This is because we use a single piece, billet steel counterweight that is matched to the weight of our backing plate and thin foam discs. We've also added an additional bearing at the top of the spindle, initially to isolated and locate the shaft and save wear on the lower two bearings. In doing so, however, it also aided in smoothing out the feel of the tool.
• Stroke length: both are typical 8mm, but the torque of the MT300 yields a far more effective tool.
• Torque: this is the biggest difference between the two. In fact, it's really what sets the MT300 apart from most DA tools, including some that cost a lot more than the MT300. Torque is what allows you to take full advantage of any tool's speed, stroke length, and even motor power. Without torque, none of those things matter when it comes to defect removal.
• DTM: no, this has nothing to do with racing a field of BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Audi sedans in the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, it's Digital Torque Management. This replaces the old "Cruise Control" on the G110v2. DTM works by sensing the rotation speed of the output shaft and increasing the amperage to the motor if it slows down under pressure. At the Thursday Night Open Garage session we held immediately after SEMA a couple of the guys tried to stop the tool from rotating under pressure by putting extreme pressure on the tool with it running against the counter top (so much pressure that doing so on a car would likely have resulted in a permanently dented body panel). And they could not stop rotation at 6500 OPM!

Now, having said all that, if all you want to do is a little light polishing and waxing, then the big gains in ability provided by the MT300 aren't going to do much for you. If you're really itching to get a DA and you want one now, you can probably get your hands on a G110v2 today and start polishing this weekend. But if you want to do any sort of real correction and defect removal, do yourself a huge favor and wait another few weeks, and spend a little bit more money, and get the MT300. It really is a major step up.

[Ralph III]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

Thanks for the reply Michael and sounds great! You've sold me....

Where do you recommend I get one at as some retailers were stating January availability and then February but it apparently is going to be longer? Exactly when will they come out because I really needed something within the next 2 to 3 weeks for a black truck? Do you have demo's and does the MT300 come with the backing plate?

God Bless,
Ralph

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

You can find lots more info on the MT300

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?62181-MT300-Dual-Action-Polisher

To answer your question, I pre-ordered mine over the christmas holiday from Autogeek and I was just notified that it has been delayed until the first week in March. It does not come with a backing plate or pads. If you can hold out I would pick up the MT300. If you really must have a DA now then pick up a G110V2.

The new foam pads and backing plate are available. I would recommend you pick up the 5" backing plate and 5" foam pads. You can get a good bundle priced right here.

http://www.autodetailingsolutions.net/meguiars-foam-disc-5-inch-bundle.html

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

Awesome information Mike, thanks

Makes me want to get one now! Are there any plans for bringing out a 220V / 240V version of this tool? You know, like the G220 version of the G110?

[CCC4me]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

• Vibration/feel: the MT300 is a fantastically smooth operating tool, much more so than the PC, G110v2, HF and especially the Griot's. This is because we use a single piece, billet steel counterweight that is matched to the weight of our backing plate and thin foam discs. We've also added an additional bearing at the top of the spindle, initially to isolated and locate the shaft and save wear on the lower two bearings. In doing so, however, it also aided in smoothing out the feel of the tool.

Not really related to the OP, but since you begged the question:

The above suggests that it will be the most well balanced of the DA machines with sanding discs on. If that's the case I think it will be my preferred machine due to that and wish I had it in time for the '65 Mustang scheduled next week

How much have you played with it in a sanding application and is it truly smoother than the other machines while sanding?

[rdonoso.hunter]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

Awesome information Mike, thanks

Makes me want to get one now! Are there any plans for bringing out a 220V / 240V version of this tool? You know, like the G220 version of the G110?

i have the same question...

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

Awesome information Mike, thanks

Makes me want to get one now! Are there any plans for bringing out a 220V / 240V version of this tool? You know, like the G220 version of the G110?

i have the same question...

My apologies to Davey for missing his question the first time around.

Yes, we most definitely have plans for a 220V version of the MT300. I don't know the exact timeline for it, or when it might show up in Oz or Chile, or Europe for that matter, but it is happening.

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiar's G110V2 vs MT300, help deciding.....

:woot Now I'm REALLY excited!!