Water/ moisture in M66?

[photoryan]

I was using M66 on my wife's silver CX-7 the other day and noticed that just about every time I was applying the M66, there would be small droplets of what appeared to be water. The main problem with those water droplets is that they would dry as water spots and I would have to rub kind of hard to remove them when removing the M66 after it hazed up.

From the best of my recollection, I would apply a small amount of M66 to a yellow polishing pad and apply with my G100. I was using around a 3.5 or 4 speed, with just a little added pressure to the weight of the DA.

Is it possible that my M66 is bad, or should I be applying it with a finishing pad instead, or??? I made sure that I shook the M66 up really good. It was happening both when I immediately started as well as after a decent amount had gotten into the pad.

Here is a picture of the droplets, though a bit difficult to see because of the lighter color of the paint. (It's toward the upper middle of the image.)

[Zuke]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

Have you been using any other waxes having this problem, i know as soon as I hit a tiny wet spot I may have forgotten to dry it makes a mess like that.

[photoryan]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

The only other wax I've used in a long time is NXT Tech Wax, and I have not had that problem. Of course, that leads me to wonder if it's the pad I was using, as I apply the NXT with a finishing pad.

I'm absolutely sure the area was dry, so it's not water that was sitting on the car that the pad picked up.

I just remembered that I did a small spritz of Quick Detailer to the pad before using, because it was pretty dry. Could that be it?

[Zuke]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

No need adding anything besides your wax to the finishing pad.

[Murr1525]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

The type of pad shouldnt affect it like that.... wouldnt think the QD would either.

Does it squeeze onto your pad as a proper 'cream', or any seperation?

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

I think that the product was not shaken up all the way. I have not heard of that problem with #66.

[ColonelCash]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

Condensation? How was the humidity / temp when you were applying it? Was the car warm and the wax cold by any chance?

[photoryan]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

No need adding anything besides your wax to the finishing pad.

I was using a polishing pad, not a finishing pad with the 66.

The type of pad shouldnt affect it like that.... wouldnt think the QD would either.

Does it squeeze onto your pad as a proper 'cream', or any seperation?

It was definitely seperated when I first took it out, but I shook for quite a while, so it was a consistant cream.

I think that the product was not shaken up all the way. I have not heard of that problem with #66.

I shook it for a while until I could tell it was not seperated any more. You can kind of tell with a clear squeez bottle as the solids are lighter and the liquids (oils?) are darker.

Condensation? How was the humidity / temp when you were applying it? Was the car warm and the wax cold by any chance?

Nice and dry outside, in the shade, both car and wax (I assume) were pretty darn close to similar temps.

[RedSoxRacer]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

I had a batch of 66 that didn't get used for about 2 years and it broke down and was ruined, had to throw it out. It acted like you described.

[Murr1525]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

Yeah, the being completely seperated would worry me a bit.

[photoryan]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

Yeah, the being completely seperated would worry me a bit.

Even when mixed back together thoroughly? That would kind of **** because I have more than 3/4 of a gallon that I haven't used.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

While it sat, before your next use. Did you re shake it before applying it to your pad? Or figure that I already shook it, it's okay?

May be if it is a older batch. You have to keep on shaking between uses.

[photoryan]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

I did not shake in between applications. However, I noticed on the first application after it was shaken quite vigorously.

Is it possible I sprayed on too much QD on the pad at the beginning? If that's the case, though, how does that explain the moisture throughout the application?

[roushstage2]

Re: Water/ moisture in M66?

Isn't this similar to the "sweating" of NXT?