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  • #1

    What is the difference between pads?

    What is a yellow, burgundy, black, wool, ect pad? they all look the same. And how many pads should one purchase to be able to do major paint correction as well as minor? What pads would one use with ultimate compound or 105? How many pads does it take for a normal daily driver car? Sorry for all of the mediocre questions, but detailing season is coming up and I need to know this before I break out the new g110..

    thank you so much....for clarification, just ask
    A Pontiac is a Chevy with better trim.
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  • #2
    Re: What is the difference between pads?

    you'll only have to worry about the yellow (polishing) and black (finishing) pads.

    the red pad (cutting) and wool pad are for rotorys only.

    you would use polishing pads for defect removal
    and finishing pads for applying a pure polish or wax only.
    they can also be used with a cleaner if the paint youre working on is soft, where the polishing pads cause marring.


    i would say at least 6 polishing pads per car
    and at least 2-3 finishing pads.
    depending on if you applying wax by hand or not.

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    • #3
      Re: What is the difference between pads?

      And they're washable.. so you wouldn't have to buy pads for a single car, then throw them out.
      www.reflectionsautodetailing.biz

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      • #4
        Re: What is the difference between pads?

        With the G100, I like using a cutting pad, with a microfiber bonnet to remove wax. Switch sides of the bonnet every 1/4 of the car. You will need at least 2 bonnets.

        I would agree with the above estimates for pad usage.

        Hope this helps.
        quality creates its own demand

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        • #5
          Re: What is the difference between pads?

          In the Meguiar's line up we have 4 different wool pads - W5000 double sided, W4000, WWHC7 So1o burgundy wool, and WWLC7 So1o yellow wool. This is also the order from most to least aggressive in the wool line. Wool pads are generally the most aggressive type of pad and are designed just for rotary buffer, NOT D/A use. Their most common function is the removal of sanding marks when coupled with an aggressive compound such as M105, M85, etc. In some cases they are used with a rotary buffer to remove extreme swirls or oxidation on very hard paint.

          Our foam pads come in 8", 7", 6" and now 4" diameter. The 8" and 6" pads are now sort of our "prior generation" pads, with the 8" being primarily rotary use pads and the 6" used for either rotary or D/A. The 7" pads are our latest version (Soft Buff 2.0) and are machine washable. The 4" pads, which should be available for purchase in a couple of weeks, are based on the 7" pads. Foam pads come in three distinct types:

          • Cutting pads (burgundy in color - W7xxx series) - these are highly aggressive and provide a lot of cut. As such they are recommended for rotary use only, although in some cases they can be effectively used via D/A. There is a high probability of hazing when using these pads on a D/A, however. The foam construction of the W7207/W7204 is slightly different from the earlier version of this pad (W7000/W7006) in that it holds it's shape and efficiency better at the cell structure level.
          • Polishing pads (yellow in color - W8xxx series) - these are the work horse of the D/A polisher for paint cleaning, removing swirls and other defects in the paint. Used with M105 to M80 and everything in between for this purpose. These feel softer to the touch than the burgundy cutting pads and provide less cut (but also a nicer finish). Foam construction is identical across both series of pads here.
          • Finishing pads (tan in color for the W9000/W9006, black for the W9207/W9204) - these are very soft to the touch, meaning they provide very little to almost no cut, and that's what you want when applying a pure polish, wax or sealant. When applying these products it is assumed that you've polished the paint to perfection, or darn close to it, and you sure don't want a pad that can mar the surface at this point. The difference between the black and tan versions is really only noticeable when using a rotary buffer; the tan pads had a tendency to skip under certain circumstances and with certain products when attached to a rotary. When using a D/A you won't notice much of a difference, other than the black pads (as all Soft Buff 2.0 pads) are machine washable/dryable.

          Earlier comments here regarding number of pads required for any given project are very good guides. As always, condition of paint, size of vehicle, goals, expectations and user skill will impact the final number.
          Michael Stoops
          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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          • #6
            Re: What is the difference between pads?

            I was wondering what is the difference between W8006 and W8207.

            thanks

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            • #7
              Re: What is the difference between pads?

              how can we know for the pads ; the numbers of cells ??(PPI ?)...
              isla.

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              • #8
                Re: What is the difference between pads?

                Originally posted by FRS View Post
                I was wondering what is the difference between W8006 and W8207.

                thanks

                So yeah, ... 8006 is older model and 8207 is the current one. The yellow foam is the same.

                8207 is also machine washable.

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                • #9
                  Re: What is the difference between pads?

                  Just need to make sure.

                  The reason you need multiple pads for a single car is
                  because they load / clog up and you need to change them to keep from micro scratching the finish
                  correct?

                  Lee

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                  • #10
                    Re: What is the difference between pads?

                    Originally posted by Isla View Post
                    how can we know for the pads ; the numbers of cells ??(PPI ?)...
                    isla.
                    We don't release that info, partly because there is so much more involved in how a pad performs beyond a simple cell count. As with so many other things, a single variable does not tell the whole story.

                    Originally posted by a1953mdl View Post
                    Just need to make sure.

                    The reason you need multiple pads for a single car is
                    because they load / clog up and you need to change them to keep from micro scratching the finish
                    correct?

                    Lee
                    Partly correct. Yes, they load up and yes allowing that to continue without cleaning of any sort can lead to some dusting issues that may cause problems when using a D/A. But when the pad gets really loaded you end up using more of the tools power just to spin the thing and you lose overall effectiveness. We've seen pads so loaded up that putting even small amount of pressure down will cause a tool to bog since it just can't overcome that inertia any more.
                    Michael Stoops
                    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What is the difference between pads?

                      sound right for me ... thanks.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What is the difference between pads?

                        A cutting pad would be fine to use with a DA and M105, as long as you follow up with something less aggressive to remove the hazing, like a finishing pad with m205

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