Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

[detailoriented]

Let me start off by saying I've been out-of-the-loop for quite a while and have been reading through the forum to find out what I've been missing. Seems like 105/205 is the process to use with a DA as opposed to 83/80 (which is what I used to use).

My goal is to detail my wife's black expedition while she and the kids are away, but I need to pick up some supplies first. I was planning on getting some 105 and 205 to clean and polish, already have #7 for gloss and #21 as sealant. It looks like most people use 105 on a polishing pad and follow with 205 on a finishing pad. Is this correct? If so, what speed would you set the G100 on for each?

I also need to order new pads (from ADS of course). Are the 7" 2.0 pads too big to use on the G100 or am I better off with the 6.5" pads? I have a couple 8006 and 9006 pads but it seems like the 2.0 pads are more durable and washable. Which ones should I get, and how many of each?

Please help. I'm overthinking this way too much and just need to order my stuff and detail the vehicle. Any advice on the process or the pads would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

[Megafast13]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

You can use 2.0 pads on the G100. For the best results with the newer pads, you'll want to get the newest DA Backing Plate.

Yes, M105/205 is the new Duo, and you want use a polishing pad for both products.
Then your Wax with a finishing pad.

Welcome to MOL!!!

1. Wash (2 Buckets, Grit Guards, Microfiber Wash Mitt)
2. Smooth Surface Clay Kit
3. M105 by DA Polishing Pad (Speed 4/5)
4. M205 by DA Polishing Pad (Speed 4/5)
5. LSP of your choice by DA Finishing Pad (Speed 3)

Pads:

Polishing Pads
Finishing Pads
Also Be sure to pick up some Ultimate Quik Detailer and Ultimate Quik Wax, Supreme Shine Microfibers, Hot Rims Tire Shine Gel Kit...

But if you wanted the G110, you can get a very nice kit from ADS for a very reasonable price.

[Tuck91]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

Might wanna pick up some SwirlX, Ultimate Compound and maybe even M80. Start with the least aggressive method.

You might want to try either M205 or SwirlX before going right to M105.

[Megafast13]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

TC, sounds like you stuck with the Pro Line in the past, but if you wanted you could also check out:

-SwirlX
-Scratch 2.0
-Ultimate Compound

[the_invisible]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

I was planning on getting some 105 and 205 to clean and polish, already have #7 for gloss and #21 as sealant. It looks like most people use 105 on a polishing pad and follow with 205 on a finishing pad. Is this correct? If so, what speed would you set the G100 on for each?

What pads to use depends on what type of surface you are working on, and the severity of the defects you are tackling. Generally, M105 should be used with a polishing pad or a cutting pad. M205 could be used with a finishing pad if the defects are light. M205 could also be used with a polishing pad for removing deeper scratches that do not require the use of M105.

On a paint surface that is not too severely damaged, speed 5 should suffice. Speed 6 is usually used on a spot-basis to remove severe scratches or swirls.

I also need to order new pads (from ADS of course). Are the 7" 2.0 pads too big to use on the G100 or am I better off with the 6.5" pads? I have a couple 8006 and 9006 pads but it seems like the 2.0 pads are more durable and washable. Which ones should I get, and how many of each?

As Matt already mentioned, the 2.0 pads would work with your existing W67DA backing plate. Having the 2.0 backing plate is essential, but not really necessary. Unless you absolutely have to use Meguiar's pads, there are other pads available at DTS that will fit your existing backing plate properly. I personally find the 5.5" pad much easier to maneuver around edges compared to the 7" pads.

How many pads you should get really depends on how clean the surface is, what kind of pads you want to use with M105 and M205, etc. I would recommend you to get one cutting pad for spot defects, two or three polishing pads for working throughout the vehicle. Maybe two finishing pads for your LSP.

Please help. I'm overthinking this way too much and just need to order my stuff and detail the vehicle. Any advice on the process or the pads would be greatly appreciated!

I find myself in favor of Meguiar's mild clay instead of the smooth surface clay. I often find my pads much cleaner during the polishing process if I have used a mild clay prior to polishing.

[Murr1525]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

The bigger pads to mean more drag, more weight, etc, and with the G100 having less power, bigger isnt always better.

[Caress Detailing]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

IMO M205 is one of the best polishes ever to hit the market.

Why?

Because it can correct some pretty serious defects with the right pressure, pad, speed, and preparation (pad priming, cleaning on the go, etc.)

I just recently did an NSX and on the softer parts of the clear, M205 did the trick with only 1 or 2 passes via Rotary at 1000rpms.

Amazing product. So before you think about using M105 (which is a bit finnicky to use) try out M205 by itself first. If it works, then you've eliminated an entire step and didn't have to cut too much paint.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

It really depends on the paint. I have detailed MANY cars with a 2.0 pad on a G110 and it is plenty. Some cars with very hard paint require either a rotary or smaller pads. It's impossible to give "general" responses to that question to the many variables out there.

I will say, though, that I recently got the larger backing plate and it seemed to make it a noticeable difference in getting power to the paint when working with the larger pads. I highly recommend picking one up

[detailoriented]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

Thanks everyone for the replies. I already have some megs clay and QD which I plan to use prior to polishing, but thanks for the reminder.

As suggested I'll definitely try 205 first on the finishing pad, then the polishing pad, and if that doesn't work, move up to 105. Sounds like if I go with the 2.0 pads I should get the larger backing plate. I'll probably go with 4 or 5 polishing pads and 2 or 3 finishing pads (6 pack from ads plus you get one with the larger backing plate). I already have a 6.5" cutting pad if needed.

For those of you using the 5.5" pads, how well do they work with 105/205? What color ccs pads would you use with 105/205?

[Caress Detailing]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

Thanks everyone for the replies. I already have some megs clay and QD which I plan to use prior to polishing, but thanks for the reminder.

As suggested I'll definitely try 205 first on the finishing pad, then the polishing pad, and if that doesn't work, move up to 105. Sounds like if I go with the 2.0 pads I should get the larger backing plate. I'll probably go with 4 or 5 polishing pads and 2 or 3 finishing pads (6 pack from ads plus you get one with the larger backing plate). I already have a 6.5" cutting pad if needed.

For those of you using the 5.5" pads, how well do they work with 105/205? What color ccs pads would you use with 105/205?

Since I also have the LC CCS pads (honestly I don't like them compared to regular full surface pads) but they do work.

For M105, it has to be Orange. M205 I use the white CCS pad. Some people will like to use a finishing red or blue pad for M205 afterwards, but to me that's just an extra third step that might not be necessary seeing as how nice M205 finishes nicely with the white pad.

Good luck!

[the_invisible]

Re: Are 2.0 pads too big to use with G100?

For those of you using the 5.5" pads, how well do they work with 105/205? What color ccs pads would you use with 105/205?

The 5.5" CCS pads may be smaller, thereby covering less area with each stroke. However they are also proven to cut faster and more aggressively compared to bigger pads. Here's an excerpt from autogeek:

With minimal pressure applied to them, many detailers find that the 5.5 inch CCS Smart Pads move more efficiently on the paint and polishes break down with greater ease because there is less foam between backing plate and the paint to buffer heat. This is great news for vehicles with hard, ceramic clear coats. Now you can polish scratch-resistant clear coats successfully with your user-friendly DA polisher. Even with the smaller pads, a dual action polisher is still the safest way to detail.

http://www.autogeek.net/ceramic-polishing-kit.html

I typically use the orange CCS pads with M105 and the White CCS pads with M205. Sometimes, I use the black CCS pads with M205 if the swirls are extremely minimal. I find that using M205 with a black pad gives the car a slightly better glow.