2.0 pad question

[cm2005300]

do i need to prime them with qd before using....and can i just throw them in the wash when im done usikng them or should i handwash them in the sink with dawn?

[Carfire]

Re: 2.0 pad question

I hand wash them after a use in the sink with Dawn.
I feel like it really breaks down the polish/compound.
The I wring them out well, by twisting, and push between a towel.
Prime them with the Kevin Brown Method.

[cm2005300]

Re: 2.0 pad question

yea ok but the guy who posted that also said this

Very true.

I would like to add that this method is NOT for use with products that use diminishing abrasives. If you use a product that uses abrasives that break down, there might be some inconsistent polishing because the abrasives break down randomly.

i am going to be using m80 which i beleive has those diminidhing wualities correct?

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: 2.0 pad question

Sounds like something I said...

If you are using M80 on a rotary, then priming it with M34 is fine. Otherwise, it is not necessary.

[onawrxhigh]

Re: 2.0 pad question

Sounds like something I said...

If you are using M80 on a rotary, then priming it with M34 is fine. Otherwise, it is not necessary.

I totally agree with Chris. I use mostly the g-100 on my vehicles but have used a rotary here and there and would spray the pad with m34. When using the g-100 I will apply the product around the edge of the pads( about 1 inch in from the outer edge), then polish a small 16x16 area, apply more 80 and continue on polishing the panel. Cleaning the pad on the fly after every panel and switching to a fresh pad when the one in use would become saturated with product.

Andrew

[cm2005300]

Re: 2.0 pad question

yea porsche that is a direct quote from you........so what is m 34? forgive me but if i dont hvae m34 could i prime with some m80 any way or could i prime with mirror glaze 205

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: 2.0 pad question

M34 Final Inspection is a spray detailer that is also body shop safe. It helps to lubricate the pad when you first start polishing to prevent a pad generated defect.

I would not worry about mixing products. If you are going to be using M80 on the rotary, go ahead and prime the pad using M34. If you are going to be using M205, prime the pad with M205 and start polishing. In general, it just isn't a good idea to mix two very different polishes.

[cm2005300]

Re: 2.0 pad question

and if i dont have m34? then how would i prime for m80?

[10degreesbtdc]

Re: 2.0 pad question

M34 Final Inspection is a spray detailer that is also body shop safe. It helps to lubricate the pad when you first start polishing to prevent a pad generated defect.

I would not worry about mixing products. If you are going to be using M80 on the rotary, go ahead and prime the pad using M34. If you are going to be using M205, prime the pad with M205 and start polishing. In general, it just isn't a good idea to mix two very different polishes.

Now I'm confused. Why would you not prime the pad (KB method) regardless of product/pad/polisher? Seems to me you always want the pad to have an even application of product so uniform defect/paint removal is obtained and there are no dry (unprimed) areas on the pad that will mar the paint? By using detailer spray isn't part of the pad primed with that and part with abrasives, whether diminishing or non-diminishing, so there would be an uneven amount of cutting across the pad? (scratches head)

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: 2.0 pad question

and if i dont have m34? then how would i prime for m80?

If you don't have any M34, you can substitute Last Touch or Quik Detailer.

Why would you not prime the pad (KB method) regardless of product/pad/polisher?

M80 contains diminishing abrasives. That means that the abrasives start out larger and break down as you polish. However, the abrasives break down randomly and there might be some irregularities in the size of the abrasives (some are fully broken down, while others may not be at that stage).

Yes, it is beneficial to have the pad totally covered with product to prevent a pad generated defect. But, you may run into some inconsistent polishing if the pad is constantly primed using a product that uses diminishing abrasives.

My suggestion for using a diminishing abrasive product would be to mist a bit of M34 onto the pad and then pick up a bead of product. The pad will usually soak up the product, so go ahead and pick up a second bead of product. That should leave the proper amount of product on the pad. Remember this is for rotary polishing with a fresh pad. When you have finished polishing that section, clean the pad and pick up another bead.

If you are using a DA, go ahead and apply an X or circle of product to the pad. The product should distribute itself evenly fairly quickly.

[10degreesbtdc]

Re: 2.0 pad question

My suggestion for using a diminishing abrasive product would be to mist a bit of M34 onto the pad and then pick up a bead of product. The pad will usually soak up the product, so go ahead and pick up a second bead of product. That should leave the proper amount of product on the pad. Remember this is for rotary polishing with a fresh pad. When you have finished polishing that section, clean the pad and pick up another bead.

If you are using a DA, go ahead and apply an X or circle of product to the pad. The product should distribute itself evenly fairly quickly.

Thanks, Chris. I'll give that a try when using diminishing abrasive products.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: 2.0 pad question

Remember this is for rotary polishing with a fresh pad.

Key point for anyone reading this thread...


While the below was written with M105 and M205 in mind the same idea and principals apply to any Meguiar's paint care product being applied by machine.