WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

[Bri9801]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

I just used speed 6 on my PC earleir today while (surprisingly for the first time in the 3 or 4 years I have had it) sanding wood with it.

Worked like a champ

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

There's simply too big of a difference in speed 5 and 6 on the PC and G110 for speed 6 to be left out.. speed 5 makes me work longer for the same results, and other than Meg's pads being cut into with the backing plate faster than at speed 5, there's no downside to speed 6.... yes a LC pad will work much better, not at correcting paint but at lasting a long time on the G110, speed 5 or 6, because of the better backing on the pad (better meaning larger).

I've been wishing for a while and I'm still staying optimistic that Meg's will improve on their old 8006/9006 pads as far as size and backing goes... no reason not to use a backing that spans the entire diameter of the pad and no reason not to supply the demand for smaller pads.. I just hope it happens soon

OP, speed 6 won't do any harm to your paint and will only damage Meg's pads if used with pressure and many times... in other words, feel safe to give it a try and see if you like how it breaks down polish and corrects better than speed 5.

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

I've been wishing for a while and I'm still staying optimistic that Meg's will improve on their old 8006/9006 pads as far as size and backing goes... no reason not to use a backing that spans the entire diameter of the pad and no reason not to supply the demand for smaller pads.. I just hope it happens soon.

Smaller pads probably remain on the drawing board, but Meguiars has released their new line of x207 pads (7" diameter) and W68DA backing plate (5.75" with a flexible outer rim). The backing plates on the new pads has improved durability and allows for machine washing.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

OP, speed 6 won't do any harm to your paint and will only damage Meg's pads if used with pressure and many times... in other words, feel safe to give it a try and see if you like how it breaks down polish and corrects better than speed 5.

And please do note that the above is a recommendation by a member and his recommendation is not endorsed by Meguiar's, so if you follow their advice and have problems please contact them.

Thanks

[3Fitty]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

I actually find speed 6 a bit unruly and chaotic. I find I can get everything I need from speed 5. To each their own, I suppose.

[ColonelCash]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

And please do note that the above is a recommendation by a member and his recommendation is not endorsed by Meguiar's, so if you follow their advice and have problems please contact them.

Thanks

Ironically enough, that information is coming from the same forum member whose signature says "Always start with the least aggressive method!"

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

I fired up my new G110 last night and went through the speed settings just to test the chatter. I dialed in speed 6 but had to shut it down almost instantly when I noticed a small tear forming in the space-time continuum!

[joncz]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

6?!?

Pah! My DA goes up to 11!

[phrawstbyte]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

I've used speed 6 while using a claybar pad... it did a hell of a job but the pad didnt last more than 1 car IF it completed the whole car... but the rep that sold those pads to the car wash that I was working at that time stated it was meant for that speed...

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Why does Meguiar's recommend staying away from speed 6? If it was posted I must have missed it, sorry.

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Ironically enough, that information is coming from the same forum member whose signature says "Always start with the least aggressive method!"

I guess it would be ironic in a way if I was recommending using G110, sanding disc and speed 6... if using speed 6 on the PC with something like M205 and a polishing pad, instead of speed 5, is considered aggressive then people all around the world should throw out their rotary machines... if you use the G110/PC enough, you'll see it simply comes down to user preference 99% of the time, and I prefer speed 5 sometimes simply because it vibrates less and makes less noise than speed 6... if, however, I'm using the G110 to do a 1-step or maybe even 2-step correction, and not just a quick 1-step with a lighter polish, speed 6 is where the dial sits.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Why does Meguiar's recommend staying away from speed 6? If it was posted I must have missed it, sorry.

Meguiar's recommends staying around the 5.0 Speed Setting because running the polisher at the 6.0 speed setting for too long creates a lot of heat that transfers to the backing plate and then the foam pad and the combination of violent oscillating action at the 6.0 speed setting, the chemicals involved and the heat will tend to loosen the adhesive contact between the Velcro Interface and the foam.

Some people like to run the polisher at the higher speed and don't have any problems with it but on this forum we stick with the Meguiar's recommendations and we don't allow our members to recommend something to our forum members that goes against the Meguiar's recommendation because if the customer has a problem we're the ones that will be held accountable and have to solve the problem, not the member posting under an anonymous nickname.

Make sense?


For what it's worth, out of the thousands of pictures I've personally posted from working on thousands of cars over the years at our training classes, cars I've NEVER worked on before so I don't know if the paint is hard or soft, or if the defects are deep or shallow, in front of anywhere from 2- to 40 people, ALL of the before and after shots where correction was done was performed on the 5.0 Speed Setting.

That's a lot of mystery paint I've buffed on in front of anywhere from 40 to 60 eyeballs and then the cars are backed out into full sun for everyone to see the results, and then of course the pictures are posted to the forum.

Besides speed, there are other factors that are just as important like good technique and choosing the right product for the job.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Why does Meguiar's recommend staying away from speed 6? If it was posted I must have missed it, sorry.

It's posted in the thread for the speed settings for the G100/G110/G220, and its also in these threads for the new 2.0 pads as well as other places throughout this forum. We have some more pressing priorities this week or we would locate them for you and post the links for your reading pleasure. Maybe one of our Super Sleuths can help you out in this area.

Washable 7" Soft Buff 2.0 Foam Pads
W7207 Washable Foam Cutting Pad
W8207 - Washable Foam Polishing Pad
W9207 - Washable Foam Finishing Pad

[Mike Phillips]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Why does Meguiar's recommend staying away from speed 6? If it was posted I must have missed it, sorry.

What the heck, took me a few nano seconds to find this thread,

Product, Pad and Speed settings for the Porter Cable Dual Action Polisher

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: WHY Speed Level 6 on the G110?

Meguiar's recommends staying around the 5.0 Speed Setting because running the polisher at the 6.0 speed setting for too long creates a lot of heat that transfers to the backing plate and then the foam pad and the combination of violent oscillating action at the 6.0 speed setting, the chemicals involved and the heat will tend to loosen the adhesive contact between the Velcro Interface and the foam.

Some people like to run the polisher at the higher speed and don't have any problems with it but on this forum we stick with the Meguiar's recommendations and we don't allow our members to recommend something to our forum members that goes against the Meguiar's recommendation because if the customer has a problem we're the ones that will be held accountable and have to solve the problem, not the member posting under an anonymous nickname.

Make sense?


For what it's worth, out of the thousands of pictures I've personally posted from working on thousands of cars over the years at our training classes, cars I've NEVER worked on before so I don't know if the paint is hard or soft, or if the defects are deep or shallow, in front of anywhere from 2- to 40 people, ALL of the before and after shots where correction was done was performed on the 5.0 Speed Setting.

That's a lot of mystery paint I've buffed on in front of anywhere from 40 to 60 eyeballs and then the cars are backed out into full sun for everyone to see the results, and then of course the pictures are posted to the forum.

Besides speed, there are other factors that are just as important like good technique and choosing the right product for the job.

Mike your answer is directed at a 25 year old not a 10 year old, so yes English language makes sense to me and stick poking smilies are... well...
I asked a question out of curiousity and got an answer as if I was saying Meg's is wrong for recommending it... I'll make sure I make no recommendations that differ from what's on the instructions from now on if those are the rules... however, don't better tools and products stem from forums, discussions, different uses,etc.? I thought that was the purpose of the forum so forgive me for assuming that...

In any case, I've actually experienced the heat transfer you mentioned on the old PC I got from ads.net and only the backing plate velcro started failing/melting lightly... this was from heavy use in one day though on a hot day so it was somewhat expected...

As for all the paint you buffed, I do agree.. speed 5 will work on practically any paint, hard or soft... I was stating that speed 6 might be a bit too aggressive for some very soft paints.