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    Well, I got my G100 in the mail! Thanks so much, Meguiar's!!

    I've used it total about 2.5 hours so far. I've been pretty busy what with work and school and all; otherwise I probably would have used it much more. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding technique, etc.

    1. I used it on my truck, which has clear coat failure (I think that's what it is called....it is little "cracks" in the clear coat). Is there anything I can do to prevent this from getting worse?

    2. My white racing stripes (they are the stick-on kind, not painted on) have some nasty looking water spots on them. Is there anything y'all would suggest using on them? I tried #80 in a little spot, and it turned the stripe nice and white, but I think it made it a tad but duller. I was sort of expecting that to happen since they are fairly soft. #80 didn't seem to do anything for the water spots, though.

    3. After about 4 passes of #80, speed 5, and the 8006 pad, I still have some scratches in my clear coat. The technique I used was tape off an area about two feet square, then put a ring of product on the buffer and spread it around. I then buffed it horizontally, vertically, and then diagonally, until it was almost clear, but not dry. I then wiped that layer off and started again. Does it sound like I used the right technique? If so, should I try #83, or just not worry about the scratches since there are cracks in the clear coat and it will never look perfect unless it is repainted?

    4. On my other "victim", a 1990 Celica with badly oxidized, very scratched up red SS paint, I taped off an area and used the same technique. I got the paint looking pretty good, except for some deeper scratches. The only problem (besides the scratches of course) is that when I look at the flourescent light in the paint, it looks like there is somewhat of a ring around the light. It's not a ring of scratches, but a lighter colored ring. I think it might possibly be micro-marring, but I'm not sure if that is the correct term. If it is micro-marring, wouldn't it be caused by not breaking down the diminishing abrasives enough? Or could it be caused by using a slightly too agressive compound on soft paint? The thing is, the paint doesn't seem soft at all. In fact, the place that I'm seeing possible micro-marring seems to have harder paint than the rest of the car, which is quite possible since that side has been re-painted about 6 months ago. If it is micro-marring, what should I do to attempt to get rid of it?

    5. What do y'all do to buff the paint under a spoiler? Just use ScratchX? There is of course no way to get the G100 under there.

    6. Is it ok to use the pad that I've been using on the Celica on another car once I'm done with the Celica, or should I just throw it away? It gets pretty gummed up with paint, so every once in a while I run it on a terry towel to try to get the product and paint out.

    Even with just 2.5 hours of buffing, I have learned a few things. I might as well share them with y'all just in case someone who hasn't used a PC reads this thread.

    A. It's better to spend a little time before-hand taping off, then spend a while afterward trying to remove the product from black trim.
    B. Don't lift the buffer from the terry towel you are cleaning it on until you have turned it off and it has stopped completely; for that matter don't lift it from anything before it has stopped. (I knew better than to do that but I accidentally ran off the edge of the towel and it was either lift the buffer or run it on the concrete floor)
    C. #80 can sling pretty far at speed 5.
    D. Soaking jeans and a nice cotton T-shirt in Oxi-Clean, Gain laundry detergent, and hot water over night will remove #80 and SS red paint that has been flung onto them.


    Sorry about all the questions, y'all, and thanks so much for helping me out with the ones I've already asked.

    -Lydia
    Lydia's Mobile Detailing
    Professional Detailing since 2007

    1997 Dodge Dakota SLT V8 - Green
    2007 Honda ST1300 - Silver

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    Re: A few questions...

    I'll take a stab at what I can here (see comments below in white) and leave the rest to those with more experience than I have:

    Originally posted by Lydia View Post
    Well, I got my G100 in the mail! Thanks so much, Meguiar's!!

    I've used it total about 2.5 hours so far. I've been pretty busy what with work and school and all; otherwise I probably would have used it much more. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding technique, etc.

    1. I used it on my truck, which has clear coat failure (I think that's what it is called....it is little "cracks" in the clear coat). Is there anything I can do to prevent this from getting worse?Not really, unless you have just a small concentrated area in which case you may be able to wet sand it down and shoot new clear over it. Maybe. Even if that makes it look better, in the long run you'll need a repaint.

    2. My white racing stripes (they are the stick-on kind, not painted on) have some nasty looking water spots on them. Is there anything y'all would suggest using on them? I tried #80 in a little spot, and it turned the stripe nice and white, but I think it made it a tad but duller. I was sort of expecting that to happen since they are fairly soft. #80 didn't seem to do anything for the water spots, though.I don't have much experience with vinyl stripes, but I suppose it's possible that water spotting could have etched into the stripes, in which case I think you're cooked. As for dulling them out, I'll leave that to a vinyl expert!

    3. After about 4 passes of #80, speed 5, and the 8006 pad, I still have some scratches in my clear coat. The technique I used was tape off an area about two feet square, then put a ring of product on the buffer and spread it around. I then buffed it horizontally, vertically, and then diagonally, until it was almost clear, but not dry. I then wiped that layer off and started again. Does it sound like I used the right technique? If so, should I try #83, or just not worry about the scratches since there are cracks in the clear coat and it will never look perfect unless it is repainted?4 passes with #80 should go a long way to making the finish look great. But, if you weren't using enough pressure then 10 passes probably wouldn't give the results you're looking for. When applying pressure to the pad you should get fairly significant deformation of the pad. Try this: with the machine off press down on the pad until it won't compress any further. Now back off about half way. This is about where you want the pressure to be when working product. Now, you pressure might have been fine, but you may have been moving the machine too quickly over the paint. There is a tendancy for people to try and "keep up" with the sound of the machine....slow down and take your time. If, after all that, you're confident that your pressure and hand speed were correct, then a pass or two with #83 is likely in order.

    4. On my other "victim", a 1990 Celica with badly oxidized, very scratched up red SS paint, I taped off an area and used the same technique. I got the paint looking pretty good, except for some deeper scratches. The only problem (besides the scratches of course) is that when I look at the flourescent light in the paint, it looks like there is somewhat of a ring around the light. It's not a ring of scratches, but a lighter colored ring. I think it might possibly be micro-marring, but I'm not sure if that is the correct term. If it is micro-marring, wouldn't it be caused by not breaking down the diminishing abrasives enough? Or could it be caused by using a slightly too agressive compound on soft paint? The thing is, the paint doesn't seem soft at all. In fact, the place that I'm seeing possible micro-marring seems to have harder paint than the rest of the car, which is quite possible since that side has been re-painted about 6 months ago. If it is micro-marring, what should I do to attempt to get rid of it?If you're only seeing this marring on the repainted section, it may well be that what you're seeing is poor prepwork under that paint. If so, again, you're cooked. Not much can be done about that. Otherwise, if you were using #80 you shouldn't be getting much micromarring, certainly not compared to what #83 can impart.

    5. What do y'all do to buff the paint under a spoiler? Just use ScratchX? There is of course no way to get the G100 under there.I do believe you've answered your own question here!

    6. Is it ok to use the pad that I've been using on the Celica on another car once I'm done with the Celica, or should I just throw it away? It gets pretty gummed up with paint, so every once in a while I run it on a terry towel to try to get the product and paint out.While Meguiar's does not recommend washing their pads, I do wash mine and I should think in case you could do much to salvage your pads after buffing the Celica. Warm water, liquid dishwashing soap, let it soak for 10 minutes or so, then work it thoroughly with your hands. Again, Meg's does not recommend this, so do so at your own risk. I've never had a problem though, even after several washings. (even in the washing maching......shhhhhhh, don't tell anyone)

    Even with just 2.5 hours of buffing, I have learned a few things. I might as well share them with y'all just in case someone who hasn't used a PC reads this thread.

    A. It's better to spend a little time before-hand taping off, then spend a while afterward trying to remove the product from black trim.
    B. Don't lift the buffer from the terry towel you are cleaning it on until you have turned it off and it has stopped completely; Jeep Man, are you reading this???? for that matter don't lift it from anything before it has stopped. (I knew better than to do that but I accidentally ran off the edge of the towel and it was either lift the buffer or run it on the concrete floor)
    C. #80 can sling pretty far at speed 5.
    D. Soaking jeans and a nice cotton T-shirt in Oxi-Clean, Gain laundry detergent, and hot water over night will remove #80 and SS red paint that has been flung onto them. I never wear a favorite T-shirt when doing a full detail


    Sorry about all the questions, y'all, and thanks so much for helping me out with the ones I've already asked.

    -Lydia
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    • #3
      Re: A few questions...

      Thanks so much for all the answers, Mike! Yeah I should have known better than to wear a favorite shirt. I'm so glad it cleaned out.

      The clear coat failure is on about half the hood and about half the roof, so I guess the only thing for it is a repaint. I don't have money for that and it wouldn't really be worth it so I guess I'll just deal with it. Fortunately the #80 and NXT seemed to make it less noticeable.

      I'll keep that in mind about the pressure and make sure to apply enough pressure next time

      Thanks for the advice about the pads. I think it would be worth it to try washing them since if I don't wash them I probably wouldn't want to use them on another vehicle.

      I've been really busy lately so I haven't had any more time to try out the PC. I went on a 4 day trip to ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway (definately worth seeing, especially during peak leaf season!), and once I got back from the trip there was a bunch of stuff to do also (including clean my truck...we were driving almost the whole trip and it was so filthy I was embarrassed to drive it. I'm so excited about the PC still though!! Oh and I have another car lined up to work on! It's a 98 teal Mustang. My Dad got it for a REALLY good deal since it has been wrecked. All that's messed up, engine-wise, is the radiator, the coolant resevoir, and the fuel pump froze up from sitting still for a while. All that's messed up body-wise is the hood needs to be replaced, the driver's side fender needs to be replaced, and the front bumper has a little crack in it. Anyways, my Dad wants me to detail it. The paint is in good condition (no clear coat failure or oxidation) it just has a lot of swirls. The interior is in good condition too. So I've got plenty of work to do, but not really plenty of time, lol. I'm very excited about all the cars I have to work on. Hopefully tomorrow I can make time to detail something....I have 5 vehicles to pick from that will be sitting at my house! Lol. Oh and I have 4 other vehicles that people have asked me to detail when I have time.

      Anyways, thanks again for the reply, Mike, and thanks again for the G100 and supplies, Meguiar's!!!
      Lydia's Mobile Detailing
      Professional Detailing since 2007

      1997 Dodge Dakota SLT V8 - Green
      2007 Honda ST1300 - Silver

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