told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

[only1eagle]

Friend of mine details cars (from repairs to just making them shine again)

He said If I am just planning on waxinf with the machine to use an orbital buffer and not worry about the polisher/sander.

So in your opinions will a round orbital buffer be better (and safer) if i only plan on using it to apply wax and not to polish etc?

thanks

[Mister B]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

An orbital buffer will not be any better or safer than the G100 polisher in my opinion, but it will be cheaper. It will work fine if all you are looking for is to apply wax with it. I used to use one of those to apply wax to my truck and it worked ok, however after purchasing the G100 with the variable speeds and ability to polish and remove light defects from my truck I will never use anything else again. It all depends on how much money you want to spend and what you want to accomplish with the machine.

[Tom Claessens]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Indeed, I couldn't agree more with Mister_B.

A "waxmaster" as it's often called is only good for wax application. So that's it. Nothing more nothing less.

It's cheaper than the G100 but like Mister_B said, what about light scratches or swirls? You surely want those out of your paint too. So now you have a problem. You've bought a "waxmaster" but now need to remove some defects and need to buy that G100 anyway. So save yourself actually some money and go for the G100 right away. You can use it to apply wax and if you find some defects, you can use the same machine to remove swirls, scratches, etc.

[Tom Weed]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Hi,
You would better off as others have said to get the PC, it's variable speed, so you can crank up the speed to 5 with a polish to remove light scratches and back it down to 3 to apply wax with. It's much more versitle than the orbital buffer.

Tom

[only1eagle]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Lets see.

1) I have a 2 week old 2007 camry and i will just be waxing it for a couple years
2) My wife is due tuesday so she wont let me spend alot of money on this (yup she has no clue how to take care of a car)
3) Will an OB cause swirl marks?

[Murr1525]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Well, you do have to balance everything out yourself, whether it is worth it to you.

One product costs more, but can remove oxidation, swirls, polish, and wax.

One is cheaper, but can spread wax.

It also depends if waxing is the only step you want to do, or if cleaning/polishing is important to you as well, and if you would do those by hand, etc?

Here are a few links that talk about different things, working by hand, by machine, etc, that might help you as well.

Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle

Step 1 Wash

Step 2 Clean

Step 3 Polish

Step 4 Protect

Step 5 Maintain

Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

How To Remove Swirls By Hand

How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

PC + #83 not "Cutting" it! - The Limits of the Dual Action Polisher

[kpagel]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Lets see.

1) I have a 2 week old 2007 camry and i will just be waxing it for a couple years
2) My wife is due tuesday so she wont let me spend alot of money on this (yup she has no clue how to take care of a car)
3) Will an OB cause swirl marks?

If you don't feel you're going to use the PC, then I wouldn't get it. However, I wouldn't get an orbital buffer, either. Its simply a waste of time. With a little practice, you will be able to wax your car by hand very quickly and effeciently. One of these days, you're going to want to be able to remove swirls from the paint, so you'll look into a PC and you'll be glad you didn't waste any money on a waxmaster.

[the other pc]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

I agree with kpagel.

I bought an inexpensive 10" orbital polisher before I found out about the G100. I used it maybe two or three times on my truck and decided I could work faster and easier by hand.

It sat on the shelf collecting dust for a couple years until I got the G100. Then I managed to lend it to a friend who wanted to try it. Now it's collecting dust on his shelf.


PC.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

This question comes up so often that we moved it to the Hot Topics forum, (Read through the "Hot Topics" forum, there's more information in this one forum than you'll probably ever want to know or need to know).

Will I notice a difference if I use the G-100




The thread is 6 pages long, with 54 replies... worthy of a read by anyone thinking about switching from working by hand to machine and then wondering which machine to invest thier time, money and efforts.

[gb387]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

I too agree with kpagel and the other pc.... I have used an inexpensive 10" orbital and seemed all the machine did was shake my arms. IMO its easier and faster to apply wax by hand over a inexpensive 10" orbital buffer, now I have not used a 6" orbital.

A PC is another story, hands down its the way to go.

[sneek]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

I wouldn't say its useless. I have a cheap 8" polisher that i use to remove heavy oxidation before it hit it with a PC

[roushstage2]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Don't get me wrong. I love the PC beyond all others, but an orbital buffer can get some work done. I completely removed all oxidation and waxed my 86 F150 and it looked new. The PC is just a much, much better alternative if you can afford it.

[rascal]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

The PC is smaller and more maneuverable compared to the orbital buffers. To me it's easier to control the PC than the OB and the Velcro backed pads and plate on the PC make it that much more superior. IMHO

[Asaf]

Re: told by a detailer to us an OB for waxing not a PC

Living in Asia I would prefer the PC but since they don't make different voltages I am pretty much limited to choices. Therefore, I ended up buying a cheap Black and Decker 900 6" OB. I really bought it for the plan just to spread and take off wax and do everything else by hand since my paint is in good condition. I have to say I was surprised with how easy it was to apply wax and how much time it saved me! Also, I noticed by hand I used much more wax and hence applied it much more unevenly but with the machine it went on in a much smoother lighter coat... If all you want to do is apply wax and take it off for the money this was worth it. For 30 dollars I would say it was an okay investment...