Problems with #80

[pool_player21]

I know that #80 is supposed to be the easiest product to use with the G100. I have done lots of research on correct use of the G100. I even bought the ShowCarGarage DVD. It seems after I get my product spread out over a 12"x12" area (even taped it off to be exact) after two or three passes the product disappears. I would think that I am using to much pressure, but this even happens with only very light pressure. I use all the techniques that was exampled on the DVD. I read many posts on here how people on the first use have no problems.

Sure wished I could attend one of those classes, but I've not seen any around Kentucky

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

Are you using a Meguiar's W-8006 Polishing Pad? Are you shaking the bottle of #80 thoroughly before and during use?

I am wondering if there is something on the paint. Did you clay the paint or any other steps before using the #80? If so, did you use a QD to thoroughly wipe off any residue from the claying or any other step?

Finally, did you detail the car in the shade on a cool surface?

By answering the above it may provide us with a clue as to what is going wrong. Meg's #80 is really easy to use, so something in this case is not right.

Tim

[pool_player21]

I am using the w-8006 pad speed setting 5
I didn't clay the car (maybe the problem).
I detailed it in the shade.
This car was a 91 and I believe it had single stage paint because i was pulling pigment when buffing.

Thanks for the fast reply.

Edit: I got the #80 from ADS it was a sample.

[Erik Mejia]

Just a thought, did you shake the bottle well?

[Tim Lingor]

Originally posted by pool_player21
I am using the w-8006 pad speed setting 5
I didn't clay the car (maybe the problem).
I detailed it in the shade.
This car was a 91 and I believe it had single stage paint because i was pulling pigment when buffing.

Thanks for the fast reply.

Edit: I got the #80 from ADS it was a sample.

Because the car is a 91 and could be SS paint, I think the surface may have oxidation that is making the buffing more difficult. One trick I like to use on paint in that situation, is to apply and remove by hand a quick coat of #7 Show Car Glaze. The #7 will help to lubricate the surface. Then when you go to buff, it will allow the product to work longer. The other issue, is the claying. I would clay the surface to prepare it for buffing.

So try this:

1. Clay the paint
2. Apply and remove #7 Show Car Glaze
3. Now buff using the G100 and the #80

Give that a try and report back!

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

What kind of car is it?

Most cars manufactured in 1991 have a clear coat finish. It's possible it's a single stage. Maybe it was re-painted and the paint used to re-paint was single stage?

U.S. auto manufactures started switching over to bc/cc systems in the early 1980's, first cars, later large trucks and vans.

Is the paint shiny where it's been polished?

Does car/paint job have a uniform appearance? As in you don't see places that the car looks like it has a rash?

If it is a single stage finish, and it's been neglected and now it's oxidized, it's simply going to take a little more work to restore it. Your first passes with the dual action polisher are going to remove a lot of dead paint and this is going to build-up on the pad so you're going to want to clean you pad very often.

Second passes, using fresh product and after wiping off any leftover residue, will tend to go to work on polishing up the fresh or virgin paint that you've uncovered.

Also if this is oxidized single stage paint, each new section will tend to absorb up some of your product with the first application. So clean you pad often and realize what you're up against.

How about a picture?

[pool_player21]

Mike the car is a Ford Festiva.
I'll try to get some pics. I went ahead and laid down some #21 just to see what it would look like, after application I did notice the oxidization heavier in some places than others. I think this weekend I'll give the buff another go if I get a chance.

Tim
I don't have any #7 available but I do have the deep crystal polish will this be ok.