Help Customer Wont Pay!

[H.E.D]

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thanks for all your info guys. i really appreciate it.

[Tim Lingor]

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Oh, don't worry, I already have you in my sights for that "pad sale thread".

Ah Nick...you are now seriously HOOPED!!!

Tim

[3Fitty]

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No small claims expert Nappers, but it sounds pretty spot-on to me. Good advice!

[Nappers]

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I've noticed in our court system here in rural No. California, the burden of proof is to prove that you did the service and did not get paid for the service.

Bring with you date and time you did the detail, any phone records (cell phones are great for every detailed call), what products you used etc. Before and after pictures would help especially with a time stamp on the picture.

The site 3Fitty gave you is a good site, it has the forms needed for small claims in California as well as any other court action.

California Courts: Forms

SC-150 is the directions of some sort....

I'm not sure on the forms you need to fill out. I was a Court Bailiff, so....I just listened and made faces at people like 3fitty (those attorneys I was friends with at least).

I'm sure when he is served with a summons of some type, he may come clean. I suggest also, that you keep your court date then dismiss without predjudice if he pays. I say this because if he pays you and the funding is not there (check) you can re-open case. Dismiss the case with predjudice you cannot, unless I got it backwards, been a while. 3Fitty may chime in .

[3Fitty]

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thanks 3fitty im checking that website you recommended. I'll keep you guys posted on what happened.thank

Let me have a look at the small claims complaint before you start the action. I might be able to help you.

[H.E.D]

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thanks 3fitty im checking that website you recommended. I'll keep you guys posted on what happened.thanks

[3Fitty]

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As an aside...

It's not the I'm "sue-happy" (or maybe I am), but the OP was wronged. He provided a service at an agreed upon price.

He fulfilled his end of the bargain and it bothers me (on principle) that this guy won't pay. So, frankly that amount of money is of no consequence to me, but the principle is worth pursuing.

Put another way, if you walk into a store and take something without paying, we call it theft and it can land you in the sin-bin. Yet guys like this slug, just think they can ignore you.... well, homey don't play that.

[3Fitty]

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Note to self: 3Fitty is your friend. DO NOT UPSET HIM!

Oh, don't worry, I already have you in my sights for that "pad sale thread".

[MyFirstES300]

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I like the way you think.

Guess that's the Italian in me

I feel bad for the OP! That was a low thing the customer did to him. I hope I gave the OP a bit of a chuckle. For something like this, a little humor can't hurt. Personally, I hope he gets his money from that slob.

[CieraSL]

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Note to self: 3Fitty is your friend. DO NOT UPSET HIM!

[AeroCleanse]

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I never understand why people do that. Service has been rendered. Just pay up already! If the service was unsatisfactory, say something and get it done the way you want. Is it really that hard?!

I mean having to take people that don't pay to court is part of doing business.

[mcox]

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Ditto

[termigator69]

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Thats just part of doing business.

I never understand why people do that. Service has been rendered. Just pay up already! If the service was unsatisfactory, say something and get it done the way you want. Is it really that hard?!

I would have say is 165 bucks really worth it? Just let it drop. Just key his car the next time you see it.

That's probably what I'd do. The keying part, that is

Usually small claims actions are relatively cheap to commence and if you are awarded costs, you can get the back. http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp....htm#paytofile

I did a bit of research for you into filing a claim in a California SC Court.

I think your case is an easy one. Here is what I would do. Commence the action and make your allegations (ie: when the work was performed, the agreed upon price, etc...). If you don't have any pics of the work this time around, bring some from the last time around. This shows you are a reputable business person and have worked for this guy before.

If he claims "he never did the work", it won't be believeable.

His next defense would probably be about price or performance. He might say, "we agreed upon 50 bucks" or whatever. In this case, get some price quotes from local detailers to show what the market value is for detailing services, just to show the judge that your rates were not beyond the market.

My guess is that once he gets your complaint, he'll pay.

If he doesn't, get a judgment and immediately serve it on him (usually by certified mail is okay). Once you've served him, different States have different rules, but I have found the easiest way to get your money is to put a lien on his tax return. I've done it in New York State and in Michigan and it is relatively easy and something he can't do anything about.

Also, if you want to be really nasty, once you get the judgment, report it to one or all of the three credit reporting agencies. You'll basically ruin his credit for the next 7-10 years.

Sounds like a plan. Love these forums. There's always someone with helpful information no matter what the situation.

[Nick Chapman]

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Usually small claims actions are relatively cheap to commence and if you are awarded costs, you can get the back. http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp....htm#paytofile

I did a bit of research for you into filing a claim in a California SC Court.

I think your case is an easy one. Here is what I would do. Commence the action and make your allegations (ie: when the work was performed, the agreed upon price, etc...). If you don't have any pics of the work this time around, bring some from the last time around. This shows you are a reputable business person and have worked for this guy before.

If he claims "he never did the work", it won't be believeable.

His next defense would probably be about price or performance. He might say, "we agreed upon 50 bucks" or whatever. In this case, get some price quotes from local detailers to show what the market value is for detailing services, just to show the judge that your rates were not beyond the market.

My guess is that once he gets your complaint, he'll pay.

If he doesn't, get a judgment and immediately serve it on him (usually by certified mail is okay). Once you've served him, different States have different rules, but I have found the easiest way to get your money is to put a lien on his tax return. I've done it in New York State and in Michigan and it is relatively easy and something he can't do anything about.

Also, if you want to be really nasty, once you get the judgment, report it to one or all of the three credit reporting agencies. You'll basically ruin his credit for the next 7-10 years.

Note to self: 3Fitty is your friend. DO NOT UPSET HIM!

[3Fitty]

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Usually small claims actions are relatively cheap to commence and if you are awarded costs, you can get the back. http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp....htm#paytofile

I did a bit of research for you into filing a claim in a California SC Court.

I think your case is an easy one. Here is what I would do. Commence the action and make your allegations (ie: when the work was performed, the agreed upon price, etc...). If you don't have any pics of the work this time around, bring some from the last time around. This shows you are a reputable business person and have worked for this guy before.

If he claims "he never did the work", it won't be believeable.

His next defense would probably be about price or performance. He might say, "we agreed upon 50 bucks" or whatever. In this case, get some price quotes from local detailers to show what the market value is for detailing services, just to show the judge that your rates were not beyond the market.

My guess is that once he gets your complaint, he'll pay.

If he doesn't, get a judgment and immediately serve it on him (usually by certified mail is okay). Once you've served him, different States have different rules, but I have found the easiest way to get your money is to put a lien on his tax return. I've done it in New York State and in Michigan and it is relatively easy and something he can't do anything about.

Also, if you want to be really nasty, once you get the judgment, report it to one or all of the three credit reporting agencies. You'll basically ruin his credit for the next 7-10 years.