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**BriLam** · Nov 3, 2005, 04:54 AM

I just wanted to chime in and ask if the car you are working on is an Acura TL?

I have a 97 Accord with silverish goldish metallic paint officially called "Heather Mist Metallic" although I refer to it as silver. I am pretty sure the TL of that year offered the same color if not one a slight bit different. Does the car you are working on look to be the same color as the Accord in my avatar?

If it is, I LOVE that color. It hides dirt but looks amazing when clean. Wouldn't have my car in any other color. Probably..

Good luck with the detail. Post photos when you're finished!

**Alex7938** · Nov 3, 2005, 08:34 AM

i have metallic silver and i've found just #21 is amazing on it, #16 on top is really good aswell.

a friend of mine had NX, #7, #16 and it looked fantastic and really wet, you could swap the NXT for the #21

**Five Star** · Nov 3, 2005, 08:54 AM

#21 and you could top it with NXT

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Alex7938
i have metallic silver and i've found just #21 is amazing on it, #16 on top is really good aswell.

a friend of mine had NX, #7, #16 and it looked fantastic and really wet, you could swap the NXT for the #21

Originally posted by Five Star
#21 and you could top it with NXT

OK, thanks folks. Looks like the way to go, with what I have, is 2 coats #21>#7>then NXT. I may substitute #3 for the #7. I have been playing with that lately trying to get more familiar with it. I have #7 down pretty well.

Still have to look into the possibility of getting some more of the scratches out. #83 is as heavy as I have gone thus far, on this car or any car. Used the PC set at 5 with a 8006 pad. It did great but left with with the stuff described in the post above.

Trying to figure out how I can go slightly more aggressive without having to pull out Scratch-X and rub it all down by hand or break out the Rotary. Is there any way I can get just a little more aggressive with the PC?. I have some #2, #84 & #85, I have not used any of these yet but think they are geared more toward the Rotary. Any thoughts?

I guess I could repeat #83 but from what I have seen, I don't have alot of confidence that will give me the results I "think" are possible.

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by BriLam
I just wanted to chime in and ask if the car you are working on is an Acura TL?

I have a 97 Accord with silverish goldish metallic paint officially called "Heather Mist Metallic" although I refer to it as silver. I am pretty sure the TL of that year offered the same color if not one a slight bit different. Does the car you are working on look to be the same color as the Accord in my avatar?

If it is, I LOVE that color. It hides dirt but looks amazing when clean. Wouldn't have my car in any other color. Probably..

Good luck with the detail. Post photos when you're finished!

NriLam, To be honest with you, I have never been one too pay that much attention to the various models, I had to amke it a point to look and make sure it was an Accura. I was doing good to get that much done. I am sure I will remeber your question in the morning and will doublecheck for ya.

But, it does appear to be the same color as yours. The fellow that owns it says he gets quite a few compliments on the color of the paint so it's look is a little unique.

I'll try to get some ics. I am just so slow with things taking pics would be just another thing to slow me down.

**a2z13** · Nov 3, 2005, 03:35 PM

hey js -- i have a nissan -- oem color: PLATINUM -- it's been called silver - gray - charcoal - and who knows what else -- anyway -- i've been using nxt carwash - cleaner wax - #7 show glaze - nxt liquid - #21 sealant - all meguiars of course in that order -- applied by hand -- i didn't believe it at first but after a few inquiries about the paint job -- yep -- flakes --

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by a2z13
hey js -- i have a nissan -- oem color: PLATINUM -- it's been called silver - gray - charcoal - and who knows what else -- anyway -- i've been using nxt carwash - cleaner wax - #7 show glaze - nxt liquid - #21 sealant - all meguiars of course in that order -- applied by hand -- i didn't believe it at first but after a few inquiries about the paint job -- yep -- flakes --

The metel flake in this think is so small that I hesitated to call it metal flake. ut it does appear to be there. I'll try to grab a few pics tomorrow. I don;t have alot of luck with cameras but I do need to practice

**Tim Lingor** · Nov 3, 2005, 03:45 PM

Hi Jeff,

My suggestion for silver paint would be either:

#7 + #20 + #16

or

#80 + #81 + #21

These pictures are with Meg's #21!

The garage door's reflection in the car's roof

The reflection of my boat and the deep blue sky in the car's hood! And this is with silver metallic paint!!

And...of course the full-on sun shot. No swirls in sight!!!

I hope this helps!

Tim

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 03:53 PM

Helpful as always Tim, I had thought about the #20 pretty hard. Still an option. Don't have the #81 yet and no #16. and won't be able to get my hands on it in time. Definetly getting some though.

I still have some scratches to make an effort with. The details for that are in the thread. Any commentary from you there would be most appreciated.

For the but to finalize thing I am leaning toward #80>#7>#21>#7>#21. Your thoughts there? Possibly substituting #3 for #7 and considering NXT for a topper. Still pondering that. The guy is pretty patient so any extra steps are worth considering.

**Tim Lingor** · Nov 3, 2005, 04:03 PM

Hi Jeff,

For the remaining scratches, you will need to buff those areas again. I would suggest doing a couple of passes with #80 before moving on to the more aggressive #83 and then stepping back down. Make sure you run the PC at speed 5, and move it very slowly over the given area. Place enough downward pressure on the buffer's head that the foam pad squishes down a bit. If the scratches do not come out after a couple of passes of #80, then switch to #83. But if the scratches still remain, a rotary buffer will be required to remove them. I have a feeling a couple of passes of #80 will do the trick!

As for your combo, I would rather go #80 + #7 + #21x2. From my experience, I have not found a huge difference using alternating sealants and pure polishes. You can substitute #3 Machine Glaze for #7. Though #3 was designed for machine application, it does work very well by hand and even a little easier than #7, IMHO.

Cheers!

Tim

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hi Jeff,

For the remaining scratches, you will need to buff those areas again. I would suggest doing a couple of passes with #80 before moving on to the more aggressive #83 and then stepping back down. Make sure you run the PC at speed 5, and move it very slowly over the given area. Place enough downward pressure on the buffer's head that the foam pad squishes down a bit. If the scratches do not come out after a couple of passes of #80, then switch to #83. But if the scratches still remain, a rotary buffer will be required to remove them. I have a feeling a couple of passes of #80 will do the trick!

As for your combo, I would rather go #80 + #7 + #21x2. From my experience, I have not found a huge difference using alternating sealants and pure polishes. You can substitute #3 Machine Glaze for #7. Though #3 was designed for machine application, it does work very well by hand and even a little easier than #7, IMHO.

Cheers!

Tim

I already hit it with the #83 one time then followed with #80. I can repeat if advised. I have 2 DAs. I had him go ahead of me with one with #83 and remove. Then I followed with #80 right after him. Significant improvement but still see the marks. I guess another hit with the #83 is in order followed by the #80.

From there I'll probably have to settle for what we have. You thoughts on #80 + #7 + #21x2 make sense. No sense in getting too carried away. I did a test spot with #7 on the trunk lid after using the #80. No spectular difference. We were in the shade and by this time the oils from the #80 were worked into the finish. But I do want to run a pure polish on it though. Had I seen a huge difference with the test spot I would have chosen #7 but since the difference was minimal I figured #3 with the DA should suffice.

**Tim Lingor** · Nov 3, 2005, 04:40 PM

Hey Jeff,

I do suggest hitting it again with the #80, perhaps even twice. Like I said, I would bet, doing #80 twice more will do the trick.

The visual difference from #7 on a lighter color is less than on a darker color. However, I have always liked the slight richness that it does indeed add to any paint, including light colors.

Tim

**Jeff Smith** · Nov 3, 2005, 06:41 PM

Ok, will consider 2 more passes with #80 first. My techique likely has alot to be desired when it comes to trying to remove scratches with the DA. I'll talk to the owner in the morning and see if it would be to much trouble for him to bring it back an extra day if need be.

I am not holding the car. He drivves it over, we work and he takes it home. Unfortunatly it is his daily driver. Also, unfortunately there are going to be a few days where, for schedule purposes, there are going to be a day or 2 in between where we can't hit it.

This means each time he comes over we will likely have to rewash and dry. Fortunately there are 2 of us and I also have 2 leaf blowers so this isn't to bad. If he were coming on consecutive days I could probaly get by with a simple QD. But with the every other day thing I would rather be safe than sorry.

I tend to be a pretty slow worker at this point so for me to do like alot of you folks can and wash/clay/clean/polish and get an LSP on, all in one day, isn;t very likely.

**Five Star** · Nov 3, 2005, 08:06 PM

maybe a good time to try out the reformulated fine cut cleaner for the D/A and write a review.

I picked up a bottle but havent had the chance to try it out yet, and probably won't until spring

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