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  • nxt Paste - application marks won't come out

    Howdy,

    Just tried my first Meguiars product, the nxt tech wax paste.

    After reading the raves here, I must have done something wrong because I am not impressed. The car was freshly washed before I started. Applied the wax using the included applicator. Let it dry for about 30 minutes and then hand buffed the car using a clean microfiber cloth.

    In the resulting finish, I can see every stroke that I used to originally apply the finish. It is as though a thin, oily film has been left behind. One that no amount of buffing will remove.

    Any idea what I could have done wrong?

    Unless I can figure this out, I won't risk another car's finish to the product!

    Appreciate your help and advice.

    mikkl

  • #2
    Sounds like-

    1. too much product
    2. didn't dry enough
    3. bad wrags to remove product
    4. finish needed some cleaning/polishing to prep it first


    or a combination of those four.

    If the streaks are light they should disappear in a day.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Superior Shine
      Sounds like-

      1. too much product
      2. didn't dry enough
      3. bad wrags to remove product
      4. finish needed some cleaning/polishing to prep it first


      or a combination of those four.

      If the streaks are light they should disappear in a day.
      Damn Joe, you're too quick-- I was about to type that same thing! I could almost count out #2 though, since in my experience I can usually do wipe-on/wipe-off application of NXT without more than a minute or two of cure time (at least I can on freshly polished paint).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Superior Shine
        Sounds like-

        1. too much product
        2. didn't dry enough
        3. bad wrags to remove product
        4. finish needed some cleaning/polishing to prep it first


        or a combination of those four.

        If the streaks are light they should disappear in a day.
        Thanks for the quick response.

        How can you tell if you are putting on too much? I would touch the surface of the can with a light rub and then apply to 1 ft by 2 ft area.

        The rags are new Turtle Wax microfiber polishing cloths. I have either that or well washed 100% cotton diapers. Which is preferred?

        Yes, the finish is older and probably could use some pre-prep. What is recommended as a lead in to wax?

        A couple of follow-on questions.

        If the marks don't fade in a day or two, how do I remove them?

        On a brand new car, what is the proper way to apply the product to prevent this marking? (yes, this is another way of asking how thin is "thin") And how often should it be applied?

        TIA,

        mikkl

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        • #5
          It should be very thin!

          I use the liquid and you can barely see it when it goes on I spread it so thin. The reason is for the problem your having. If it gets too thick it's a pain to remove the excess.

          Then you have to wait for a day or two for the wax to "set-up" and then you can buff it and you should no longer see the marks.

          A second application might remove the marks just remember a VERY LIGHT coat. Also don't do this in the sun or on a hot car as this will affect the wax as well.

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          • #6
            In other words, if it dries white, it is on too heavily?

            If it seems to be on too heavy, is it better to wipe it off immediately and try again? Or wait it out and reapply?

            mikkl

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            • #7
              this same thing happens to me when i use the nxt. i also get tiny dots all over my truck. everything goes away with the first washing though.
              NA

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              • #8
                Just to add to what the other's have said....

                I think you best bet is to pre-clean the finish with DC #1, or ColorX....It wouldn't hurt to clay the finish either.

                NXT is probably cleaning some of the contamination off in places, and it makes for a streaky look.

                Welcome to the forum BTW.
                r. b.

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                • #9
                  If it turns out really really bad, wash your car with a proper car soap several hours later and you should remove the streaks and leave the wax.

                  As forleaving streaks, make sure the car is very clean, it is warm, you put it on with a very thin coat and give it time to dry.

                  Use a good clean microfiber or cotton terry to remove it.

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                  • #10
                    Hi, I'm beginner, too.
                    I use NXT Tech wax ( liquid ), I have some problem on the only hood area, but the rest portion show no smear or application mark.

                    In my humble opinion,

                    How can you tell if you are putting on too much? I would touch the surface of the can with a light rub and then apply to 1 ft by 2 ft area.
                    - it's just enough amount to mild haze( semitransparent state ) on paint.

                    The rags are new Turtle Wax microfiber polishing cloths. I have either that or well washed 100% cotton diapers. Which is preferred?
                    - I prefer good quality of the MF than others.


                    Yes, the finish is older and probably could use some pre-prep. What is recommended as a lead in to wax?
                    - Crystal series step 1 & 2 or scratch X.
                    - Clay bar.

                    A couple of follow-on questions.
                    If the marks don't fade in a day or two, how do I remove them?
                    - using quick detailer ( ex. quik detailer, NXT speed detailer, final inspection).

                    On a brand new car, what is the proper way to apply the product to prevent this marking? (yes, this is another way of asking how thin is "thin") And how often should it be applied?
                    - at first, clean the surface and cooling the surface.
                    - two thin coating is better than one thick coating.
                    - at least once a month.

                    Have a nice day !

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                    • #11
                      First, no need to worry about your finish. A little smearing from a Meguiars wax will not damage your paint. Also, it sounds like cleaning and polishing steps are definately needed to prep the surface.

                      Just to add to waht viewbox said, you would want to clay the car first, then use either DC#1, or even COlorX can be quite nice. If you use DC#1, then follow it up with DC#2.

                      Thin coats are important, and remember like dissolves like. So a little smearing can often be cured by another application right away. However, as it has been a few days for you, I would recomend a full detail, doing the proper wash/clay/clean/polish/wax steps.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mikkl
                        How can you tell if you are putting on too much? I would touch the surface of the can with a light rub and then apply to 1 ft by 2 ft area.


                        mikkl
                        From the sound of it, you are putting the amount of product on a 1 X 1 or 2 X 2 ft area that I would put on an entire car (by PC).

                        Dab a CORNER of the applicator in the wax, then lightly spread it out as far as it will go without heavy rubbing. At most, you should see a greasy smear on the paint followed by a very light haze when it drys. This haze should wipe off with almost no effort at all.

                        Where in Oh are you? I'm in the Cleveland/Akron area, maybe close enough to help.
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                        • #13
                          I too get this happening everytime I apply NXT by hand with an applicator. This after preparing the surface too. I NEVER have it happen when I use the PC. It must have something to do with having too much product on, and not being able to spread it evenly, at least not as uniform as with a PC.
                          Using Quik Detailer will remove the "smears", but will also not let the NXT bond correctly with the paint....from what I have read.

                          Matt

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by heebzman
                            I too get this happening every time I apply NXT by hand with an applicator. This after preparing the surface too. I NEVER have it happen when I use the PC. It must have something to do with having too much product on, and not being able to spread it evenly, at least not as uniform as with a PC.
                            A little technique goes long way...

                            First, NXT Tech Wax does contain a slight amount of a special cleaner but it is in no way a one-step cleaner wax as the uniformed on other forums will say. Even though it contains a slight amount cleaner in the product, this wax in both the liquid and the paste really needs to be applied to the same type of condition of finish that a pure wax like M16, M26 or DC3 should be applied to. Anytime the finish is not like brand spanking new, that is it has been a while since it has seen any attention such as claying or using a paint cleaner like ScratchX, then a wax like Tech Wax is not going to perform well as it's the wrong product for the condition of the finish.

                            This is why it's so important to always evaluate the finish with your eyes in good lighting and with the palm of your clean hand to inspect for above surface contaminants.

                            If the finish is not perfectly clean and smooth, then before applying a wax like NXT Tech Wax, the finish should be clayed and cleaned after first washing.

                            Using Quik Detailer will remove the "smears", but will also not let the NXT bond correctly with the paint....from what I have read.

                            Matt
                            This is incorrect, the problem with using any kind of product on a freshly applied coat of wax is that you, your hand, your polishing cloth and your choice of product will disrupt the polymers or other ingredients before they have fully set-up/cured.

                            The idea being to apply the right wax to the right condition of finish and then after removing the excess standing back and stopping any further wiping.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikkl
                              Yes, the finish is older and probably could use some pre-prep. What is recommended as a lead in to wax?

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