Some help needed...

[Terence K]

Hi guys,

Need your help here with some questions hanging in my head...

1. Understand that it is safe to use the ColorX or Cleaner Wax (consumer line) on a daily driver every once or twice a month. But is it ok to do so every week?

2. If I have applied the ColorX/Cleaner Wax, must I top it off with either NXT or GC wax? Some detailers here (in my country) advised me to do so as both products does not provide enough protection.

3. Can I apply ColorX then followed by a layer of Cleaner Wax? Or would the Cleaner Wax "cancel" of the layer of ColorX beneath as it has some cleaning agents in it.

Sorry if my questions sound silly in anyway. Still a newbie in this.
Thanks in advance for your advice!

Cheers!

[LiquidBlack]

Once or twice a month of colorx would be overkill in my opinion.

[Murr1525]

1. Every week would be a bit of overkill, mostly becasue the product lasts longer than that. If you want to wash you car every week, I would follow up with a spray wax.

2. You dont have to top it, but you certainly can. I use ColorX + Nxt wax on my daily driver most of the time. I think it just looks a little better with the Nxt, and 2 layers of wax are recomended for best protection and looks. And then I try and use the Nxt Spray Wax after each wash.

If you havent clayed as well, it is great to do so. Clay+ColorX+Nxt is a great quick combo for a daily driver.

3. You wouldnt want to do this. As you say, one will remove the other, and not really add anything.

[silence]

Can you apply the two layers of wax back-to-back or should you wait between applications?

[Murr1525]

The best results would be after waiting about 12 hours to apply the second coat of wax.

In the real world, this isnt always possible, and if you can wait 20 min or so, you will get very good results.

[Terence K]

Thanks for all your replies guys! I know I can count on you guys!

The only reason why I wax my car every week is because my daily driver is parked outdoors 24/7 - exposed to the weather and dirt. Plus it's extremely hot over here so my car is constantly being "baked" by the sun.

And I remember reading somewhere in one of the threads that waxes "breaks down" at high temperatures. Any truth in this? Or is it only applicable to Carnauba based wax but not waxes like NXT?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Terence K
Thanks for all your replies guys! I know I can count on you guys!

The only reason why I wax my car every week is because my daily driver is parked outdoors 24/7 - exposed to the weather and dirt. Plus it's extremely hot over here so my car is constantly being "baked" by the sun.

If you want to wax your car once a week with A12 Cleaner/Wax or even ColorX, it is perfectly safe to do so and your car's paint will always look show room new.

And I remember reading somewhere in one of the threads that waxes "breaks down" at high temperatures. Any truth in this? Or is it only applicable to Carnauba based wax but not waxes like NXT?

Well we cannot speak for other companies waxes and certainly there are some on the market that are positioned as Carnauba-based, which implies it is a wax based upon, or uses as its primary protection and beauty ingredient, Carnauba wax.

All Meguiar's waxes that contain Carnauba are blended waxes, that is they are not waxes that rely solely on Carnauba for protection or beauty.

For example, The Deep Crystal Carnauba Wax is a pure wax in that it contains no cleaners, contrary to common misconception it's also not a straight Carnauba wax in that if you read the back label it states that it is a blended wax. From the label,

This unique formula uses:

• * The highest grade of Carnauba wax
  * An exotic blend of nutrients and conditioners
  * Rich polymers and exclusive resins

By blending key ingredients, like the highest quality Carnauba waxes available, with the right polymers, silicones and other resins, Meguiar's can offer their customers waxes that offer the best of both worlds - Beautiful results with long lasting, durable protection.

As far as what you read by others try to remember everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that doesn't always make their opinion right. Often times people posting to forum are what we call C & P's, that is they are Copy and Pasters, they read something on some forum or website and then copy and paste it into a post they make on a forum as though it was something they generated when if fact it is not.

It's okay to do this if you cite the originating author or website, but to leave out any indication that you borrowed it tends to make it look like the person posting it is in fact the author.

Others copy and paste information posted on one forum to another forum and thus spread information around whether the information is true or not.

Take note of the names of people posting and remember them, after a while you can get a feel for whether these people are credible and out to help you with accurate information, or if they're just another self-appointed guru or anonymous keyboard commando copying and pasting other's work or like a Parrot, repeating bad information found on one forum and then posting it to another forum.

[LiquidBlack]

About waxes breaking down in heat, I think I read that NXT breaks down at a higher temperature than carnauba based waxes.

[gb387]

Originally posted by LiquidBlack
About waxes breaking down in heat, I think I read that NXT breaks down at a higher temperature than carnauba based waxes.

I use NXT on my wheels for that reason.... holds up very nice on my wheels.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by LiquidBlack
About waxes breaking down in heat, I think I read that NXT breaks down at a higher temperature than Carnauba based waxes.

I guess in order to determine if when this would have any impact on you and me and use waxing our cars we need to find out what the highest temperatures car paint will reach in the most extreme scenarios.

So... where's the hottest place on earth that people live and drive cars, and who owns a black car and a temperature sensing device?

[Terence K]

Mike,

Couldn't agree more with you on the C & P's. Thus my decision to post my queries to clearify them.

Ironically, a detailer here who is one of Meguiar's advocate claims that both ColorX & Cleaner has abrasives that would cut the clear coat. Of course, I have read your postings informing us that they are actually diminishing abrasives which would not hurt the clear coat..

[LiquidBlack]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
I guess in order to determine if when this would have any impact on you and me and use waxing our cars we need to find out what the highest temperatures car paint will reach in the most extreme scenarios.

So... where's the hottest place on earth that people live and drive cars, and who owns a black car and a temperature sensing device?

Me. Memphis TN in high humidity

I swear I cooked myself a few times in that car this summer. I dont look at my temperature guage often, but the highest I ever remember seeing it at was around 130-140* in the cockpit. Its definately been hotter than that before.

[Accumulator]

Originally posted by Terence K
..Ironically, a detailer here who is one of Meguiar's advocate claims that both ColorX & Cleaner has abrasives that would cut the clear coat. Of course, I have read your postings informing us that they are actually diminishing abrasives ...

IIRC the A12 cleaner wax is (functionally) nonabrasive.

People *do* post all sorts of incorrect info and they also skew info that's "technically correct" to suit their purposes, *especially* when it comes to "abrasives".

Mike- Clarification/memory-jog please: is Color-X functionally nonabrasive on automotive paint in the sense that "pure polishes" and something like Deep Crystal Step #1 are? I know that Scratch-X has the diminishing abrasives but I can't remember about the Color-X