#82 vs #9 vs #80

[74 thing]

I have never used # 82 and was wondering how it comares to #9 and #80. It is my understanding that #9 cuts the edges of swirls and then fills the swirls to hide them. Does #82 remove them completely? When I used # 80 with the DA it removed the swirls completely. Thanks for the info.

[TKDDAD]

Re: #82 vs #9 vs #80

Originally posted by 74 thing
I have never used # 82 and was wondering how it comares to #9 and #80. It is my understanding that #9 cuts the edges of swirls and then fills the swirls to hide them. Does #82 remove them completely? When I used # 80 with the DA it removed the swirls completely. Thanks for the info.

I can only comment on #80 since I've not had the opportunity to use the other two...but I will say that I love #80....worked great removing the swirls that I actually instilled on my new car finish by hand ....I applied the #80 with the DA and removed by hand...I now have bonnets on order so I can remove it with the DA too...I don't think that answers your question but thought I'd comment for others....

[Murr1525]

#80 and #83 seem to be the most popular. They certainly remove swirls, no filling in.

I cant imagine that #9 only fills in swirls though...but i have never used it.

[rusty bumper]

I have them all, but it's been a while since I've used #9.

#80 is an outstanding product. It is a great one step cleaner/polish and even offers a little protecton.

#82 is a great product if you want to do some finesse polishing to the finish, and make it look even wetter than with #80.......Especially if you top it with #81.

The bottom line is: Go with #80 if you have some swirls to deal with, and use #82 for cars that have few paint problems, but need some extra shine.

At least that's my observation about them.

[Accumulator]

Originally posted by Murr1525
#80 and #83 seem to be the most popular. They certainly remove swirls, no filling in.

I cant imagine that #9 only fills in swirls though...but i have never used it.

I don't want to use the term "filling" too loosely here and get spanked by anybody...but in my experience both #80 and #9 can "hide" some light marring that is physically still present. I've used these products and *thought* I had a marring free finish- inspected under all kinds of lighting, etc. etc. I then used a nonabrasive paint cleaner and found that the marring wasn't really gone after all. Same thing can happen with a rubbing alcohol wipedown. I suspect that the left behind trade secret oils and/or the paint-safe polymers in #80 contribute to this "hiding" but I don't know for certain so I hesitate to make wild guesses. I just know that I thought I'd removed the marring but it "came back" after I cleaned the surface (and no, the cleaning didn't cause new marring ).

This is not to say that those products don't also (mechanically) remove the marring by gently abrading the surface. They *do* do this and the "hiding" is not something I'm knocking. I like both products (well, let's say I *really* like #80 ).

"Only fill"? No. But they will hide a little something. If this is a big issue you can just use them a little more and truly remove the imperfections by further abrading the surface with the diminishing abrasives. Personally, when I use these products I settle for the finish "looking great" and I don't worry about some little flaws still being there but not being visible.