What to do first ?

[x02gt]

Can I just apply #83, then #80 with out clay bar ??

[Mike Phillips]

Re: What to do first ?

Originally posted by x02gt
Can I just apply #83, then #80 with out clay bar ??

Sure.

How are you applying them? It's always a bad idea to assume, but I'll assume you're applying them with a dual action polisher, correct me if I'm wrong.

Clay bars are the best way to remove above surface bonded contaminants, but a thorough application of M83 will remove some/most above surface contaminants, that is if your car even has any.

For really tough bonded contaminants like overspray paint, machine cleaning with a dual action polisher and a cleaner polish like M83 will not be very effective as the foam pad will tend to merely polish the contaminants, and not remove them. Foam pads on rotary buffers don't really do a good job either as the foam is to gentle. Wool pads on rotary buffers will usually kick everything off.

How does the horizontal surfaces feel when you draw the palm of your clean hand over them?

[x02gt]

Yes !! It is with a D/A.. My car is very clean, actually it was just photographed for Modified Mustang Magazine. It is what I have always dreamed of , you know to be in a magazine that is.. But I am not HAPPY, It has a couple of swirl marks.. I would put up some pic's, but this site will not let me...

[rusty bumper]

Re: Re: What to do first ?

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
For really tough bonded contaminants like overspray paint, machine cleaning with a dual action polisher and a cleaner polish like M83 will not be very effective as the foam pad will tend to merely polish the contaminants, and not remove them.

I never could achieve a real smooth finish with a DA alone.......Not until I tried clay for the first time.

[Murr1525]

Even on a brand new car, claying makes a huge difference. Definatley recomended.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by x02gt
I would put up some pic's, but this site will not let me...

Hi x02gt

You car looks great, the reason you cannot upload them is because they are to large in file size and in dimension size. The smallest photo you sent me was 1 megabyte, the largest was 5 megabytes. Our gallery limits you to a maximum of 700 pixels wide, every one of the pictures you sent me were 4288 X 2848, they are freaking huge!

Besides being to large to upload, most people don't have a monitor large enough, or the resolution to see pictures this large without having to horizontal scroll. So think about it, if you have to horizontal scroll in order to see the entire picture... you can't see the entire picture. That's because as you scroll to see more of one side, the picture is disappearing on the other side. Thus it's kind of pointless to upload such large pictures... no on can see the entire picture at one time. Uploading photos larger than 700 pixels is pretty much considered bad netiquette.

It's okay if you don't know this stuff, as everyone has to learn sometime and post like this will also share this information with hundreds and thousands of others over the years.

But you're in luck... we have tutorials here on the forum that will teach you how to work with photos in forums like this. So you can learn how to crop and resize your photos not only for use here on MOL, but these skills will help you on any forum.

Read through this article...

How to put pictures into your posts

[Mike Phillips]

Using the two free software programs our online tutorials show you where to download for free, I have resized your original to 400 pixels wide and posted it below.




While the sky is very artistic, we're not in an museum for art, we're on a forum on the Internet, I had to reduce the above photo in width to accommodate the height.

The tutorials on our forum show you how to crop-out the fluff so everyone's attention is focused on the meat. By cropping out the fluff, (in this case the sky), I was then able to increases the width to show the meat, (your Mustang). The below picture is still only 500 pixels wide but now everyone can see what your car looks like without having to horizontal scroll, or even vertical scroll which in the photo's original size, they would have to scroll both ways to see the car in portions.



And here is a maximum of 700 pixels wide...



To be honest... 700 pixels is actually too wide for most peoples monitors and if they are on dial-up modem, then the time it takes to download a few pictures this size will just about kill someone to wait that long... 600 pixels is about as large as you should go.

By the way, I uploaded all these pictures into your gallery here,

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/showgallery.php?ppuser=4093&cat=500&password=

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by x02gt
Yes !! It is with a D/A.. My car is very clean, actually it was just photographed for Modified Mustang Magazine. It is what I have always dreamed of , you know to be in a magazine that is.. But I am not HAPPY, It has a couple of swirl marks..

If you want to remove all the swirl marks, follow the instructions in the below article, remember to focus on working small areas at a time and overlap your work areas from one to another.

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

I would put up some pic's, but this site will not let me...

All the pictures you sent me were beauty shots, none of them show swirls. You'll need to take a picture of the sun reflecting off the paint to show the swirls.

[x02gt]

Thanks !!!! For the HELP Mike, and the pic's... THANK YOU!!!!!!