Buffing Pads Confusion

[argondexenon]

Hi,

I just bought 2 of W-8006, 2 of W-9006 & 2 of Ultimate Bonnet. The question is,

1. Which pads are suitable for #80, #83, #85 & #21?

2. How to work with those products with Randow Orbit interm of speed setting, timing etc.

Thanks.

[gb387]

Try these posts, some good info there:

This link will tell you how to use a cleaner/polish/wax with the PC.

This post will help with speed/pad selection.

[argondexenon]

Thank gb387!

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Buffing Pads Confusion

Originally posted by argondexenon
Hi,

I just bought 2 of W-8006, 2 of W-9006 & 2 of Ultimate Bonnet. The question is,

1. Which pads are suitable for #80, #83, #85 & #21?

2. How to work with those products with Randow Orbit interm of speed setting, timing etc.

Thanks.

W-8006 = M80 Speed Glaze, M83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish and if you like, the M21 Synthetic Sealant

W-9006 = M21 Synthetic Sealant.


By altering your pads from less aggressive to more aggressive you change the cleaning ability of the chemical you're using.

M85 is a compound designed to be used with a wool pad on a rotary buffer.

[argondexenon]

how to work with new car

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your reply. Here's another question...

1. Since I have a Random Orbit, I look your recommendation about 'speed setting' and 'arm speed' and how long to work with products.

For your info, my car age was 4 months and the Random Orbit has 6 variable speed from 7,500 - 12,000rpm.

Thanks.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: how to work with new car

Originally posted by argondexenon
Hi Mike,

Thanks for your reply. Here's another question...

1. Since I have a Random Orbit, I look your recommendation about 'speed setting' and 'arm speed' and how long to work with products.

For your info, my car age was 4 months and the Random Orbit has 6 variable speed from 7,500 - 12,000rpm.

Thanks.

What kind of polisher is this?

Here's a how-to I wrote that covers the basics. If your finish is in good shape to start with, then you should be able to skip the M83 and start with the M80. If your new car has swirls installed by the dealer, then you may have to start with the M83

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Tips & Techniques for using the G-100a to remove swirls and other paint defects.

Products Used
Quik Clay System
G-100a
W-8006 foam polishing pad
W-9006 foam finishing pad
#83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish
#80 Speed Glaze
Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax
Ultimate Wipe
Ultimate Bonnet

First wash the car thoroughly. Pay special attention to loosening and removing any dirt particles from cracks and crevices to prevent these dirt particles from being introduced onto the surface during the polishing process. After washing and drying, inspect the surface both visually for below surface defects and with the palm of your clean hand for above surface defects.

If you feel any tiny little bumps still attached to the finish after washing, proceed to clay the paint to safely remove these contaminants. After claying each panel, wipe the panel down with a quick detailer to remove any residue.

Using Painters Tape, tape-off any plastic trim or components that you don not want to get product onto and also tape-off any edges, high points or areas with known thin paint.



Your car may not look like the below car, but the taped-off areas should...




Applying #83 Dual Action Cleaner/Polish with the G-100

• Speed Setting - 5.0
• Arm Speed - Slow Arm Speed
• Pressure - 4 to 5 pounds of pressure on the head of the polisher
• Work Area - Work a small area at a time, about 1 foot square
• Overlapping motions - Overlap each pass by 50%, move the polisher using different patterns
• Time - Work the product until the diminishing abrasives have broken down, but you haven't gone completely to a dry buff.
• Amount of product - Don't overuse product, use enough to lay down a film in the area you are working

When using the G100 Dual Action Polisher to remove defects, (This is different then merely applying a polish or a wax because you're trying to remove paint), you need to use a slow arm speed and overlap you passes by 50%. You also want to go in at least two different directions, for example, from where you're standing, side to side, then front to back. You can also move the polisher in a kitty/corner fashion for complete, thorough and uniform cleaning action.

Only work a small area at a time, this will vary according to the shape, curve or body line of the panel you are polishing but for example on a large flat panel, you want to stay around a 12" to 18" squared area. The point being, don't try to work to large of an area all at once or you won't remove the defects equally everywhere.

When you move on to a new section, overlap into the old section for a uniform end results.

When it comes time for applying a pure polish, or a wax, (besides cleaner/waxes like ColorX if you're doing a one-step), the you can polish larger areas and spend less time, i.e. use less passes.

The point of the cleaning step is to remove the defects. Because the G100's polishing action is gentle and therefore safe, it takes time to remove small particles of paint in an effort to remove a defect.

If the below image represents swirls and scratches evenly distributed throughout your car's finish,



Then you can see that in order to remove the defects you need to remove the highest areas of the surface until they are level with the lowest depths of the deepest scratches. In essence, you must remove paint.


Applying #80 Speed Glaze with the G-100

• Speed Setting - 4.0 to 5.0
• Arm Speed - Medium Arm Speed
• Pressure - 3-5 pounds of pressure
• Work Area - You can work a larger area than what you do with the #83 DACP
• Time - Work the product until the diminishing abrasives have broken down, but you haven't gone completely to a dry buff.
• Amount of product - Don't overuse product, use enough to lay down a film in the area you are working. Speed Glaze is rich in polishing oils a little bit goes a long ways

Applying NXT Tech Wax with the G-100

• Speed Setting - 3.0 to 4.0
• Arm Speed - Medium Arm Speed
• Pressure - Light pressure - More than the weight of the machine, you want to engage the foam pad with the surface, not just float over it
• Work Area - You can work panel by panel, for example, apply to one half of the hood, then walk to the other side of the car and apply to the other half of the hood. Apply to fender all at once, door, deck lid, etc.
• Time - Work the product long enough to make two passes over the finish then move on
• Amount of product - Don't overuse product, use enough to lay down a film in the area you are working

Removing Polish or Wax with an Ultimate Bonnet on the G-100

• Speed Setting - 4.0 to 5.0
• Arm Speed - Medium Arm Speed
• Pressure - 3-5 pounds of pressure
• Work Area - You can work panel by panel, for example, apply to one half of the hood, then walk to the other side of the car and apply to the other half of the hood. Apply to fender all at once, door, deck lid, etc.
• Time - Work the area until the bonnet has removed the wax

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Lot's of great information in these forums...

Meguiar's How-To Articles

Hot Topics

Meguiar's Automotive FAQ

Articles of Interest

[argondexenon]

Type of polisher

Mike,

Mine is 5" Bosch Orbital Sander.

I'm bit confuse a different with rotary and D/A polisher.
But, I believe the g-100 has different function compared with orbital.

What do you mean "until the diminishing abrassive have broken down"? Is it to work until products disappear?

I'm sorry for this kind of question because I already bought the products but haven't use yet.

Thanks

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Type of polisher

Originally posted by argondexenon
Mike,

Mine is 5" Bosch Orbital Sander.

I don't know anything about it, you'll have to science it out as you go...

I'm bit confuse a different with rotary and D/A polisher.
But, I believe the g-100 has different function compared with orbital.

Read this thread...

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1395

Watch the video online or purchase a copy...


Watch our how-to video here,

How to remove paint defects

Or you can purchase it here,

Professional Education Series Video

What do you mean "until the diminishing abrasive have broken down"? Is it to work until products disappear?

I'm sorry for this kind of question because I already bought the products but haven't use yet.

Thanks

Meguiar's diminishing abrasives breakdown as your work them against the finish, the way this works is they start out aggressive, remove some paint , then breakdown and polish out. This removes the defects and leaves the finish smooth and glossy without the typical scratches and scouring left by traditional compounds where the abrasives don't breakdown.

Knowing how long to buff comes from experience, you need to buff long enough to breakdown the abrasives without going to a dry buff where your product is gone or turning to dry dust.

[argondexenon]

Thanks Mike!