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  • Question for Mike Phillips concerning new PPG paint job

    Mike I see from your signature that you reference a quote from a guy that is a Paint Instructor for the PPG paint company.

    I don't know if you have any knowledge of the PPG system, (but I am asuming that you do since you are so knowledgable concerning paint detailing) but it specifies that no polish is to be used within like the 1st 30 days of the paint job.

    My question is this. What is safe to use on a new PPG paint job as far as keeping it clean and shiny those first few weeks and how soon can you start detailing the vehicle.

    The reason I ask is that I saw you mention something to a guy who just had his Corvette painted about you wishing he had let you polish it before he left with it.


    And with a new paint job, what are the steps to get started and maintain the finish. The Car will have be topped with two coats of PPG clear.

    Any help will be great...



    Also this is my first post, but I have lurked for a few weeks now and all I can say is, WOW!! There are some talented people out there detailing cars. And Mike you are a pure genius!!

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    Hi SpeedyGun,

    Just a note to let you know I have seen and read your post, but I'm preparing for a Viper Detail for this weekends Viper event, I'll have to get back to you on this...

    Sorry, lots to do...

    Mike
    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Not a prob Mike. I can tell you are a VERY busy man

      If anyone else has any suggestions until Mike has time, I am all ears

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      • #4
        i just got a ppg paint job (full strip and repaint) for the hood of my car ~ unfortunately the shop was really good and now the hood looks better than the rest of the car.

        any way, the shop told me i could glaze the car the day i got it back.... i waited 2 days. they told me that as long as the product didn't contain sealants (such as, wax), i would be fine. i PP1'd the car with an orbital, though not touching the hood and front quarter panels. then i applied #7 by hand to the rest of the car, and left it at that. the car's garaged so i'll wait to apply wax.

        the shop also told me that 30 days was a good time to wait for wax, i suppose that this is a good time period, but i'll probably wait closer to 60 just to be safe.

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        • #5
          That was my car....I wish I would have had Mike prep it before I got it back.
          Anyway it looks great...PPG paint was used and a few house of colors for shadowing.
          I got it home ( in Pa from Ca...3000 miles) and it was not very clean after being in a the back of an enclosed trailer .
          I have put 4 coats of NXT on it and use #51 detailer and it looks great. I have won 2 shows with it so far and best of at 1 of them.
          I am sure Mike will chime in with more info but I have not seen a problem.
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            Re: Question for Mike Phillips concerning new PPG paint job

            Originally posted by SPEEDYGUN
            I don't know if you have any knowledge of the PPG system, but it specifies that no polish is to be used within like the 1st 30 days of the paint job.

            My question is this. What is safe to use on a new PPG paint job as far as keeping it clean and shiny those first few weeks and how soon can you start detailing the vehicle.
            Hi SPEEDYGUN,

            Thanks for joining Meguiar's Online, and thanks for the kind words.

            Here's the answer to your question, it's in the *NEW* Meguiar's FAQ


            10. How soon can I wax my new car?


            A new car with a factory paint job can be waxed the moment it is rolled out of the manufacturing plant. Cars that have factory paint jobs are cured at much higher temperatures, sometimes as high as 300 degrees in special baking ovens. At a factory level, the car goes through the painting and baking process without any of the rubber, plastic, and cloth components installed. This is why they can expose the car and it's fresh paint to such high temperatures. These high temperatures and special paints used at the factory level insures the paint is fully cured by the time the car is completely assembled.

            After-market paint finishes however, are cured at a much lower temperature to ensure the method of baking or heating the paint doesn't melt non-metal components such as wiring and vinyl. For this reason, it's best to follow the specific paint manufactures recommendations for care and maintenance of fresh paint. Most paint manufactures that supply paint to the refinish industry recommend that you allow anywhere from 30 to 90 days curing time after the paint is applied before you apply the first application of wax.

            To maintain your cars fresh paint during the recommended curing time you can safely use any of the below Meguiar's pure polishes, which are not only safe for fresh paint but help to enhance the curing process while making your paint look it's absolute best.

            M-03 Machine Glaze

            M-05 New Car Glaze

            M-07 Show Car Glaze

            M-81 Hand Polish

            A-21 Deep Crystal Polish


            Another product you can use to maintain fresh paint throughout the curing process and even afterwards is Meguiar's M-80 Speed Glaze. Speed Glaze is a cleaner/polish that also contains a unique paintable polymer that will extend the durability of the product while offering protection to the finish closer to that of a real wax or paint protectant. Speed Glaze contains a high level of pure polishing oils and only a small amount of very fine diminishing abrasives for cleaning/removing surface imperfections, blemishes, and surface stain. The amount of diminishing abrasives contained in this product are not enough to scratch the surface when applied by hand or machine. They will instead ensure that the surface is completely clean, enabling the rich polishing oils to penetrate into the surface creating deep, dark, wet-looking gloss while the paintable polymers provide a small but important level of protection to preserve your finish from attack and deterioration while it cures.

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            If you apply any of the above Safe for fresh paint polishes to your car's new paint, your paint will be safe, and look beautiful throughout the recommended curing time. After the time period your painter recommends has passed, you can then apply a paint protectant, such as Tech Wax.

            Hope this helps...

            Mike

            p.s.

            Welcome to Meguiar's Online!
            Mike Phillips
            760-515-0444
            showcargarage@gmail.com

            "Find something you like and use it often"

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