Very upset with meguair's ultimate rubbing compound

[Ilovecleancars]

So i washed my car then i applied uc to my orbital buffer to remove scratches and yes they went away but then after a few days of rain they all started reappearing again which really upset me since it took me the whole day to do my entire car! After i used uc i went over the entire car with polish and then wax so i did all the correct steps and dont know why the scratches came back

[The Guz]

Re: Very upset with meguair's ultimate rubbing compound

What random orbital are you using?

Most of the time it comes down to technique and the correct tools.

[Ilovecleancars]

Re: Very upset with meguair's ultimate rubbing compound

black & decker with microfiber bonnets.

[DasBurninator]

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black & decker with microfiber bonnets.

That unit is more of a "waxer" than a polisher... Probably a good bit of why you are still seeing RIDS in the paint.

Ultimate Compound actually has a lot of correcting power, but it needs to be used with the correct tools and pads to utilize that power to its fullest.

[The Guz]

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I would have to agree with the previous statement. I would recommend you get yourself a dual action polisher and pads. That will get you the the results you are looking for.

[Selectchoice]

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Also, to save yourself the headache of finding out you weren't happy with the final result after you've done the entire car, perform a test spot on a 12x12" area first. Thoroughly examine that test area to see you're getting satisfactory results, then move around the car.

UC is a great product which I am sure will work for you. Maybe your tool may struggle with this job depending on the severity of the defects, but you should be able to see some improvement at least.

[Nick Winn]

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We are sorry to hear about your trouble using our Ultimate Compound with your random orbital polisher. You are certainly welcome to contact our Customer Care Center if you are looking for a refund on any of our products and they can assist you with the refund process or technical recommendations.

There can be quite a few variables which lead to your bad experience, but as others have indicated, the machine used to apply Ultimate Compound likely did not provide sufficient power to get the defect removal you are looking for.

We can all imagine your frustration, as we have all been there before, frustrated with how a paint is reacting to a particular process. Unfortunately in your case it sounds as though you didn't realize your process wasn't working until you put a lot of work in.

We understand this may not help your frustration, but we are here to help you reach your paint goals every step of the way. If you would rather speak to someone on the phone, our Customer Care Center phone number is 800-347-5700.

[Blueline]

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I have tried UC with my little random orbital polisher and it didn't work for me also. Even with aggressive pressure, to where the unit almost stoped, I finally concluded that I would burn it out before the scratch was removed. I went out and bought the DA system for my drill and with that unit, the UC worked like a charm. My little buffer is just that... a buffer, and great for light polishing, but you need to have power with UC.

[GLOCKer]

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I would consider holding on to that Ultimate Compound and trying a different application method! If you're not ready for a DA polisher, maybe pick up the drill attachment (DA Power System) that Meguiar's sells and the proper compounding pad for that. Then I'd use Ultimate Polish, and finish with Ultimate wax (all on the proper pads!).

[The Guz]

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For the price of the DAPS I would just go with a DA. For example I could go and pick up the harbor freight DA for the same price of the DAPS. It may cost more because of the backing plate and pads but it will give better performance and in the long tun it will pay for itself. Plus I can't imagine the time it takes to correct the paint with a 4" pad. Just my thoughts.

[DasBurninator]

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For the price of the DAPS I would just go with a DA. For example I could go and pick up the harbor freight DA for the same price of the DAPS. It may cost more because of the backing plate and pads but it will give better performance and in the long tun it will pay for itself. Plus I can't imagine the time it takes to correct the paint with a 4" pad. Just my thoughts.

I understand why the DAPS was created and the target market for it, but I just have trouble justifying it when there are true DA polishers for only a little bit more money that offer a better user experience.

[GLOCKer]

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In retrospect, I wish I had just saved and bought a true DA down the road myself. The DAPS still falls way cheaper than a true DA and all of the backing plates and pads (especially if you shop carefully and use coupons from Autozone). It'll still be a little until I get my hands on a true DA. Oh well.

[The Guz]

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I understand why the DAPS was created and the target market for it, but I just have trouble justifying it when there are true DA polishers for only a little bit more money that offer a better user experience.

That is true. We are DA users so we speak from experience and we both know it's worth the investment.

In retrospect, I wish I had just saved and bought a true DA down the road myself. The DAPS still falls way cheaper than a true DA and all of the backing plates and pads (especially if you shop carefully and use coupons from Autozone). It'll still be a little until I get my hands on a true DA. Oh well.

I would have to disagree with the DAPS being that much cheaper. One can find a good deal and have a decent set up.

Pulled these prices from Autopia Car Care. I'm assuming the op has the liquids.

DAPS tool - $55
2 pk of DA compounding pads - $13
2 pk of DA polishing pads - $13
2 pk of DA finishing pads - $13
Total of about $94

Harbor Freight DA - $70 (online price) - 20% coupon -> $56
Meguiar's 5" backing plate + 6 pk of Meguiar's Foam Discs (pulled from Auto Detailing Solutions)- $66
Total of $122

That's a $28 difference. I am not taking into account shipping and tax.

If I wanted to save a little more I could go with the Lake Country set up

Harbor Freight DA - $70 - 20% coupon -> $56
Lake Country 5" backing plate (pulled from Auto Detailing Solutions) - $16
6 pk of Lake Country Foam pads (pulled from Auto Detailing Solutions)- $40
Total of $112

That's a $18 difference. I am not taking into account shipping and tax.

Now if we are talking about an MT300 DA, well that's a different story. Then yes the DAPS is much cheaper.

[DasBurninator]

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That is true. We are DA users so we speak from experience and we both know it's worth the investment.

If there is another thing experience has taught me it is my time is worth something. And comparing the time it takes to use a standard DA compared to DAPS is significant.
With that in mind it is easy to justify an extra $25

Another thing to take into consideration with DAPS is it requires the user to have an existing drill to use. It is also a cumbersome setup IMO.

[GLOCKer]

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What's funny is after I wrote my post, I start knocking around the old internet again looking at the prices on DAs. I ended up at Harbor Freight, and saw they had one on sale, and that they had a 25% off coupon that took it down to $52. Well, I decided to stop on my way home from work to look at it, and they only had one left on the shelf. The box was a little beat up but everything looked good in it. When I got to the register, the cashier said she couldn't use my 25% off coupon because it had an open-box price on it of $55.99. I blurted out, "Well, that's stupid because if it wasn't damaged, it'd only cost me $52!" She had a manager take the 25% off the open box price, so I was out-the-door for $44.50!!!!!

Now to get a good backing plate and some pads at a good price!!!!!!!!