Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

[ffboy]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Ultimate Wax is quite durable, especially in combination with Ultimate Quik Wax. I say if you're satisfied with the look and durability of Ultimate Wax and UQW, you can skip the Collinites. In my experience, Collinite (whether it be 845 Insulator Wax, 476s Double Coat or 915) can change the look of Ultimate or even NXT 2.0.

However, being a regular car guy, I also have experience with the Collinites, and love them just as much as Meguiar's Synthetic waxes. I say do a comparison between Ultimate Wax only side and Ultimate Wax+Collinite and see if the difference is enough to justify the extra step.

[Don]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

I understand what you mean about the D115, but I'm a 'regular' wash guy. I prefer to know that I am flooding the dirt & contaminates off the surface before, during and after washing. I think I'm going to try ULW as my base (applied 4 days ago) and top it with Collinite 476s to see what happens.

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

No need.. I've upgraded to D115. It allows me wash as often as I like and maintains a waxed surface nonstop. Paints never felt smoother, and judging by the last time I actually got the hose out to do a traditional wash, [last time it rained] it bead water comparable to the freshest coat of wax.

It even makes me look eco friendly without even trying

[The Guz]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

I think it's time for you to upgrade to a coating.

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Sealant i.e. ULW, yes. However I'll admit I'm extremely OCD when it comes to 2 things, tire shine and beading.. From my personal experience, beading from a quality LSP is super relentless when the vehicle is rinsed during the 1st wash. For me, that's the pinnacle of detailing. Lol.

2nd wash, still looking good.. 3rd wash, ok. 4th wash, beading definitely not quite as fierce as it once was.. 5th wash, I'm feeling like Don is feeling in OP... 6th wash, the difference in beading is an early warning sign that contaminants could be on the horizon. This is when I begin to consider re applying a coat of wax.. 7th wash, wax now, or regret it later.. 8th wash, beads? What beads? Lol. I'll pay for my laziness by having to clay in the near future... I've let it get to that point. I've also learned to prevent it from reaching that point. Claying is cool and all, but for me it's even better to go a yr+ and still pass the baggie test.

Just my 2 cents.

[Don]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Are you saying after roughly 8 normal 2 buckets a person should think about a recoat, even with a sealant?

In the summer, I don't think I go that long anyway, I'll see what happens if I start using Collinite as a topper.

[The Guz]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

So is topping ULW with Collinite and maintaining it with UQW a good idea?

I would pick one and use it with UQW.

Are you saying after roughly 8 normal 2 buckets a person should think about a recoat, even with a sealant?

I'm not agreeing with this but anything is possible. I guess it can depends on the surrounding environment or the possibility of the surface being contaminated with something that looks to have removed the sealant/wax. When I was doing that little test with all three Meguiar's sealants, they were still present after 10 washes. With a wax I could see this being more true but not with a sealant.

As a matter of fact my mom's 96 regal has Detailer's Pro Poli-Coat paint sealant and it's been on the car just over 7 months. The car's been washed more than 8 times and no spray waxes used. The car sits out 24/7 exposed to bird bombs and tree sap just to name a few things.

[Spazzz]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

However, you'll be hard pressed to see most waxes/sealants survive past 8 normal handwashes.

Are you saying after roughly 8 normal 2 buckets a person should think about a recoat, even with a sealant?

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

I'm saying 'yes', with the Collinite being optional.

[Don]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

So is topping ULW with Collinite and maintaining it with UQW a good idea?

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Of course... makes sense now.

[The Guz]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Michael, can you clarify what you mean by this? UW is quite a long lasting sealant IME.

Meant to say Don using Ultimate Wash & Wax. Not UW.

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

The wax in ultimate is not meant to be durable. It's meant to give you that freshly waxed look. It will not last that long.

Michael, can you clarify what you mean by this? UW is quite a long lasting sealant IME.

[DasBurninator]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

Instead of using UQD to give you more water to dry.. Why not avoid having to do a whole wash and use it to wipe off that light dust? Or is pollen a bit too much for a quik detailer to handle? I've never experienced the pollen situation.

You'd love some D115. It's pretty much all I use on the cars here at home now.

Just judging by what I walked out to Yesterday after washing my car the day before... The pollen is more than Quik Detailer can handle. It sounds like Don is running into similar amounts of pollen we are getting this year in CO.

[The Guz]

Re: Ultimate Liquid Wax + Collinite + Ultimate Quik Wax?

UQD works fine as a drying aid. Also it's not a problem using any car wash soap. The wax in ultimate is not meant to be durable. It's meant to give you that freshly waxed look. It will not last that long.