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    Hey everyone! Just joined and I'm excited to be posting here.

    I'm looking to get the D114 to use as a rinseless wash along with other uses. I am just curious as to a good way to go about it.

    I've read the D114 can be used as a waterless wash and the dilution for this will be 1:128. Will this dilution put this product's cleaning abilities an lubricity at a similar level to the other waterless products? Will increasing the dilution ratio be more beneficial? I'm just looking for a safe yet effective waterless wash product.

    I would also like to use this product as an interior cleaning (plastics and other surfaces). I'm thinking a 1:256 ratio will be good as a wipe down. This is the ratio for the rinseless wash I believe as well.

    Do you think a stronger dilution will be good for wheel?

    Thanks!

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    I recently just bought D114 for use as a waterless wash and its quickly grown on me. I use it a 1:128 on everything from paint, interior, windows, wheels, engine bay, etc. I was initially worried as it felt significantly "thinner" than other WW like UWW+ or Pinnacle. But those fears have gone away as I see how well it lifts dirt from the surface and how nice and scratch free it leaves the surface.

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      Re: D114 questions

      Originally posted by Nav45 View Post
      Hey everyone! Just joined and I'm excited to be posting here.

      I'm looking to get the D114 to use as a rinseless wash along with other uses. I am just curious as to a good way to go about it.

      I've read the D114 can be used as a waterless wash and the dilution for this will be 1:128. Will this dilution put this product's cleaning abilities an lubricity at a similar level to the other waterless products? Will increasing the dilution ratio be more beneficial? I'm just looking for a safe yet effective waterless wash product.

      I would also like to use this product as an interior cleaning (plastics and other surfaces). I'm thinking a 1:256 ratio will be good as a wipe down. This is the ratio for the rinseless wash I believe as well.

      Do you think a stronger dilution will be good for wheel?

      Thanks!
      256:1 works for lightly soiled cars
      128:1 is for dirty cars.

      I use it at 128:1 for waterless and presoaking panels if needed before a rinseless.

      If you go too strong on the dilution it can strip wax. It isn't really meant to be a dedicated wheel cleaner if your wheels are caked with brake dust, but with that said if you keep your wheels sealed D114 works great at rinseless dilution for wiping off any brake dust easily. Just make sure you use a different set of towels for wheels vs the rest of the car.

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        Re: D114 questions

        Originally posted by Matt-erhorn View Post
        I recently just bought D114 for use as a waterless wash and its quickly grown on me. I use it a 1:128 on everything from paint, interior, windows, wheels, engine bay, etc. I was initially worried as it felt significantly "thinner" than other WW like UWW+ or Pinnacle. But those fears have gone away as I see how well it lifts dirt from the surface and how nice and scratch free it leaves the surface.
        I really like how much better it does at releasing dirt from wash media compared to every other rinseless on the market.

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          Re: D114 questions

          Originally posted by Matt-erhorn View Post
          I recently just bought D114 for use as a waterless wash and its quickly grown on me. I use it a 1:128 on everything from paint, interior, windows, wheels, engine bay, etc. I was initially worried as it felt significantly "thinner" than other WW like UWW+ or Pinnacle. But those fears have gone away as I see how well it lifts dirt from the surface and how nice and scratch free it leaves the surface.
          Great to hear. After hearing some qualities of this product I became very interested in it. I have never used anything but a damp microfiber cloth to clean my interior. I'm interested in using D114 in this regard. I'm wondering if it leaves any kind of strong smell, residue or anything else on the interior surfaces? I'm kind of hesitant in using anything but water. I may have to try D114 as a waterless wash as well. Thank you Matt-erhorn.

          Originally posted by DasBurninator View Post
          256:1 works for lightly soiled cars
          128:1 is for dirty cars.

          I use it at 128:1 for waterless and presoaking panels if needed before a rinseless.

          If you go too strong on the dilution it can strip wax. It isn't really meant to be a dedicated wheel cleaner if your wheels are caked with brake dust, but with that said if you keep your wheels sealed D114 works great at rinseless dilution for wiping off any brake dust easily. Just make sure you use a different set of towels for wheels vs the rest of the car.
          Ah ok. I was just wondering if I can mix up product with a higher D114 ratio in a spray bottle for wheels. I will have to get a brush for the deep cleaning. Thanks for the information, DasBurninator.

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            Re: D114 questions

            Originally posted by Nav45 View Post
            I'm interested in using D114 in this regard. I'm wondering if it leaves any kind of strong smell, residue or anything else on the interior surfaces? I'm kind of hesitant in using anything but water. I may have to try D114 as a waterless wash as well.
            Just make sure you follow it with a dry towel to wipe up any excess residue. It doesn't really have a strong scent when diluted anyways.

            Originally posted by Nav45 View Post
            The barrels of my wheels are pretty dirty but the exterior spokes seem fine. I'm probably going to use some sort of brush along with D114 and see how it does. My door jam areas are pretty dirty. I'm going to use the waterless approach on those and see how it does. Is the clay lube dilution similar to the waterless? Thanks DasBurnanator.
            I'd use a dedicated wheel cleaner (Something like Megs DUB wheel cleaner) and get it really clean first. Then seal the wheels. D114 will pull off some stuff, but if it has been baked on it will take more effort/better cleaner.
            Door jambs it will do great with. I suggest a brush to help agitate dirt in the jambs too.

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              Re: D114 questions

              Originally posted by DasBurninator View Post
              Just make sure you follow it with a dry towel to wipe up any excess residue. It doesn't really have a strong scent when diluted anyways.


              I'd use a dedicated wheel cleaner (Something like Megs DUB wheel cleaner) and get it really clean first. Then seal the wheels. D114 will pull off some stuff, but if it has been baked on it will take more effort/better cleaner.
              Door jambs it will do great with. I suggest a brush to help agitate dirt in the jambs too.
              Question: I have some 409 APC. I'm wondering if that will do a decent job? I will look into the DUB wheel cleaner but just wondering if using what I have will do the job.

              Also, what brushes do you recommend?

              Thank you DasBurninator!

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                Re: D114 questions

                Originally posted by Nav45 View Post
                Question: I have some 409 APC. I'm wondering if that will do a decent job? I will look into the DUB wheel cleaner but just wondering if using what I have will do the job.

                Also, what brushes do you recommend?

                Thank you DasBurninator!
                It's a bit hard to tell without seeing the condition of the wheels. You might be just fine with that APC. Just make sure doesn't dry on the wheels or it could stain them.

                I use a lugnut brush like this one in grimy door jambs


                No problem. Glad I could help you out with it.

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                  Re: D114 questions

                  Originally posted by DasBurninator View Post
                  It's a bit hard to tell without seeing the condition of the wheels. You might be just fine with that APC. Just make sure doesn't dry on the wheels or it could stain them.

                  I use a lugnut brush like this one in grimy door jambs


                  No problem. Glad I could help you out with it.
                  The wheel barrels have some stuff on them because I haven't been scrubbing to get the dirt off. The exterior spokes are fine. The condition isn't that bad.

                  That's a nice lugnut brush - seems versatile. Would you recommend the Speed Master Brush (or Jr.) for the barrels? I think I can use towels for the spokes but I need some sort of brush that is delicate to the wheels' finish but can also clean well. Appreciate it.

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                    Re: D114 questions

                    The wheels aren't too bad but there some dried up dirt and brake dust on the wheel barrels. For that, I will need a brush. Thanks for the lugnut suggestion, DasBurninator. What do you suggest for cleaning the inside of the wheel?

                    Question: After wiping down the interior with 114, is a protectant really necessary? I understand there are UV rays that might cause some harm but I'm just cautious of using anything of a chemical nature on the interior. I have always used a damp towel. I am considering using 114 though so we'll see how that goes. Thanks.

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                      Re: D114 questions

                      Originally posted by Nav45 View Post
                      The wheels aren't too bad but there some dried up dirt and brake dust on the wheel barrels. For that, I will need a brush. Thanks for the lugnut suggestion, DasBurninator. What do you suggest for cleaning the inside of the wheel?

                      Question: After wiping down the interior with 114, is a protectant really necessary? I understand there are UV rays that might cause some harm but I'm just cautious of using anything of a chemical nature on the interior. I have always used a damp towel. I am considering using 114 though so we'll see how that goes. Thanks.
                      I have about 7-10 different brushes in my arsenal... Wheel woolies are amazing at getting the barrels of wheels without pulling them off. It's not perfect, but it works very well.
                      I have a soft brush for the faces, small brush for nooks and crannies and lugnuts. Tire brush just for tires.

                      I always have something on my interiors. If you don't like any dressing left behind then Quik Interior detailer is great. Leaves UV protection and nothing visible on the dash. Just because something is a chemical doesn't mean it is bad for what you are applying it to. Interior products are designed to work with the materials and help keep them protected and clean.

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                        Re: D114 questions

                        D114 is great.

                        In regards to cleaning your wheels. It will not remove caked on brake dust. You would need a dedicated wheel cleaner for that. Over the counter you can get DUB or All Wheel & Tire Cleaner. Like Das I use various brushes (wheel woolies, speed master, montana boars hair wheel brush, lug nut brush, tire brush).

                        As far as the interior, I have not used D114 on mine. I tend to keep it fairly clean so all I use is quik interior detailer (for it's light cleaning ability) and follow up with either natural shine, new car scent protectant or ultimate protectant. You can stop after QID as it has some UV protection. The dedicated protectants also have UV protection and will not leave the interior looking greasy like an armor all type product.
                        99 Grand Prix
                        02 Camaro SS

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                          Re: D114 questions

                          Originally posted by DasBurninator View Post
                          I have about 7-10 different brushes in my arsenal... Wheel woolies are amazing at getting the barrels of wheels without pulling them off. It's not perfect, but it works very well.
                          I have a soft brush for the faces, small brush for nooks and crannies and lugnuts. Tire brush just for tires.

                          I always have something on my interiors. If you don't like any dressing left behind then Quik Interior detailer is great. Leaves UV protection and nothing visible on the dash. Just because something is a chemical doesn't mean it is bad for what you are applying it to. Interior products are designed to work with the materials and help keep them protected and clean.
                          I was thinking of buying one of the larger brushes to reach the wheel barrels - thanks for the recommendation - I will check the various brushes out.

                          I am not necessarily opposed to chemicals but certain aspects of them. I don't want an overt smell in the interior. I would rather have a product that leaves minimal odor. I will have to check out the Meg's interior cleaner. Thanks Das.

                          Originally posted by The Guz View Post
                          D114 is great.

                          In regards to cleaning your wheels. It will not remove caked on brake dust. You would need a dedicated wheel cleaner for that. Over the counter you can get DUB or All Wheel & Tire Cleaner. Like Das I use various brushes (wheel woolies, speed master, montana boars hair wheel brush, lug nut brush, tire brush).

                          As far as the interior, I have not used D114 on mine. I tend to keep it fairly clean so all I use is quik interior detailer (for it's light cleaning ability) and follow up with either natural shine, new car scent protectant or ultimate protectant. You can stop after QID as it has some UV protection. The dedicated protectants also have UV protection and will not leave the interior looking greasy like an armor all type product.
                          Ok, I think I will have to get a wheel cleaner. LOL, I haven't paid too much attention to the wheels so I think I'm going to get the Sonax Full Effect wheel cleaner along with a brush. I might have to check out the DUB wheel cleaner too - appreciate the suggestion.

                          My interior is also fairly clean besides the dust and some spots here and there so I will get the milder cleaning product, as you suggested. I hope this will be enough UV protection. To be honest, the interior doesn't look too bad despite only using water for years. Though I have to say that the dash area is looking slightly gray rather than black. If I can make this area turn a bit darker again, that'll be great. Thanks Guz.

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                            I've used water in the past too but I love D114 because it leaves no residue and does great on stuff like nav screens. I just love the ability to only have to use one product. Once I run out of D120 I'll probably switch to D114 as my glass cleaner too. Just so universal.

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                              Re: D114 questions

                              Originally posted by Matt-erhorn View Post
                              I've used water in the past too but I love D114 because it leaves no residue and does great on stuff like nav screens. I just love the ability to only have to use one product. Once I run out of D120 I'll probably switch to D114 as my glass cleaner too. Just so universal.
                              Great! So I'm going to assume the D114 is safe for tinted windows? Nice. Do you use the standard cleaning dilutions? Thanks Matt.

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