#21 a stand alone product?

[genes]

I used #21 yesterday on a Mazda SUV. It was my first time using this product and I was amazed at the finish. I have had my problems with getting this type of a product on black trim so I was very careful when I applied it per the directions on the bottle.

I was wondering if this product was intended to be a stand alone product all by itself? I kind of figured that it would be great with some #16 on top of it but it looked so good by itself I didn't bother to touch it.

I am very satisfied with the entire line of products that are available. I love the "pop" the customers get when they look at their interior, APC, Accent dressing & #40, the wheels are clean and shiny, All season dressing, Hot shine wheels (using a rag for a matte finish), and the exterior looks fantastic, #21, Trim detailer and a once over using Last touch while I am micro fiber cleaning before turning the car over. All of the customers comment on how good the car smells also.

I had problems cleaning wheels before I received the brush line. The round brush is the best cleaning tool I have. It cleans the wheels in areas that were impossible before.

It is good to have consistency and with these products I have found a pattern that works.

[travisdecpn]

#21 is meant to be used on new and like new finishes. The surface should be properly prepped before using the sealant to ensure that it will remain durable. It does have very, very mild cleaners in it, but not enough to make it a feasible one-step product.

[genes]

Thanks for the reply. what other products have you used with this one? By properly prepped do you mean washed and clayed or stripped of any polish or waxes that are on the car? thanks again

[travisdecpn]

I have used #21 as my LSP over #80 speed glaze, clearkote VM, and poorboy's SSR 2.5 with great results using each of them. Yes, by properly prepped you nailed it on the head (except that you don't really remove the polish,that is simply the last step before applying your LSP). Having a carefully prepped surface will make any LSP look better and last longer.

[Jeff Brown]

M6601 an excellent one step or prewax wax.

You guys should try M66 Quick Detailer. This professional formula is designed to effectively remov swirls and mild defects, while polishing to create a brilliant high gloss, and leaving behind a durable polymer protection which is compatable with Synthetic Sealant or any other product Meguiar's mfg. It is similar to M80 in cleaning power but leaves a durable paint protection behind which can only be built on when applying our Synthetic Sealant or Tech Wax. Using a G100 DA and a W8006 at ~ 4.5opm removes shimmering swirls, spider webs, and fine scratches.

jb

[Rick]

Yeah agreed. #66 and #21 or NXT as a two step system produces awsome results. If #66 won't remove the defects by DA it can be used with the rotary where it's even more effective.

[genes]

Thanks. I have a gallon of #66 and will try this combo tomorrow. I had no idea it was this good. Now I am anxious to try it.

[Jeff Brown]

Genes

I have M66 being used as a prewax at several Mercedes and BMW dealerships. Many of their cars get beat up by the car wash scratchers who come by twice a week. M66 removes the majority of swirls and scratches in a quick fix. I have a lot of shops that use it to remove the "shimmer" marks left over from some rotary applications. Apply very little pressure to the G100 and allow the pad to spin slightly. Work the buffer with very slow passes and really give it a chance to work. If you have an Ultimate Bonnet, remove the product with that for a super clear finish.

Have fun!!!
JB

[rusty bumper]

Re: M6601 an excellent one step or prewax wax.

Originally posted by jbrown@meguiars
You guys should try M66 Quick Detailer. This professional formula is designed to effectively remov swirls and mild defects, while polishing to create a brilliant high gloss, and leaving behind a durable polymer protection which is compatable with Synthetic Sealant or any other product Meguiar's mfg. It is similar to M80 in cleaning power but leaves a durable paint protection behind which can only be built on when applying our Synthetic Sealant or Tech Wax. Using a G100 DA and a W8006 at ~ 4.5opm removes shimmering swirls, spider webs, and fine scratches.

jb

What is it on the abrasive scale?........#80 is a 4.

[Tim Lingor]

Re: Re: M6601 an excellent one step or prewax wax.

Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
What is it on the abrasive scale?........#80 is a 4.

M66 is also a 4 on the scale, but it behaves very differently than #80 when being buffed. M66 has to be one of the most under-rated products. With a rotary, it leaves a beautiful, deep finish. Then top it with #21 or NXT and you have an excellent combo!

Tim

[rusty bumper]

Re: Re: Re: M6601 an excellent one step or prewax wax.

Originally posted by 2hotford
M66 is also a 4 on the scale, but it behaves very differently than #80 when being buffed. M66 has to be one of the most under-rated products. With a rotary, it leaves a beautiful, deep finish. Then top it with #21 or NXT and you have an excellent combo!

Tim

Thanks Tim!

I had forgotten about that post!

Another product to try one day.

[djtrackie]

I used ColorX under 21 the other day... very very good 2-stepper!

ColorX to clean, polish, and prepare the surface. 21 to seal.

[Buellwinkle]

Re: Re: Re: M6601 an excellent one step or prewax wax.

Originally posted by 2hotford
M66 is also a 4 on the scale, but it behaves very differently than #80 when being buffed. M66 has to be one of the most under-rated products. With a rotary, it leaves a beautiful, deep finish. Then top it with #21 or NXT and you have an excellent combo!

Tim

Does M66 have the diminishing abbrasives of #80? Also, does it work well with a G100 or is this more of a rotory buffer type product.

[Tim Lingor]

Hi Buellwinkle

I belive Meg's #80 and #66 use a different diminishing abrasive. But I will have to check to confirm. I can tell you that #66 does work better with the rotary IMO. A good combo is to use the rotary and #66, followed by #66 with the G100. The finish will look deep and wet! Like I said, #66 has to be one of the most under-rated products!

Tim