Meguiars show car glaze

[JeremyD]

I'm so particular about the Beauty and look of my truck. I wash very carefully and detail very carefully. Instead of polishing all the time. I like to use glazes and such. I have had my 2013 Barcelona red double cab TRD sport tacoma since October of 2013 and I have polished the whole truck one time. I was wondering if show car glaze fill in water etches. My hood has some, I don't know why though, I keep it waxed and sealed.

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

Do you have any pics? It would depend how bad/deep the water etching is.

If you've only polished it once, it might be time to do it again...

[JeremyD]

Very shallow. I might can get some pics tomorrow

[JeremyD]

Next good two days I get with good weather I was going to wash, clay, glaze, seal, and then wax. I was hoping to not have to polish again. I worry about polishing the clear too thin. But I don't use aggressive stuff, I used meguiars UP last time. Is it right that new vehicles the clear is mixed with the paint?

The products I was planing on using were: duragloss 901 car wash concentrate. Meguiar's smooth surface clay kit. Meguiar's show car glaze. Meguiar's polymer sealant. And Meguiar's high tech yellow wax.

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

You will be fine with polishing. It's when you are compounding more than you should be. Give ultimate polish or M205 a shot.

Also the effects of a glaze are temporary. It will fade and you will be right back where you started. If you are using polymer sealant which is M20, it is a cleaner wax type product and that will remove the glaze. You would be looking for more of a finishing wax/sealant like M21, NXT, ultimate wax or paint protect 365.

Another option is using white wax to use it's cleaning ability. Check out Mike Stoops thread.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?61685-The-power-of-White-Wax

With your comment about clear being mixed with paint, it sounds like you are referring to the old single stage paints. Modern day has a coat of paint followed by a coat of clear. Some Toyota's still use single stage paint so there will be color transfer on the pads.

[davey g-force]

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Agree with Guz.

Are you sure the water spots are etched into the paint? If not, you may find that claying alone will remove them...

[JeremyD]

I'm going to clean my truck up again tomorrow, been doing some raining and stuff. I will inspect with my swirl finder light and take pictures.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

M07 Show Car Glaze can do wonders for temporarily hiding fine swirls, but water spot etching is a different story as the damage is much larger in scope. If they are bugging you then it's best to remove them. Don't be overly concerned with removing too much clear, even on a new vehicle. You can do some pretty serious defect removal with a DA, Ultimate Compound and a foam cutting pad and remove virtually nothing in terms of the clear coat.

Next good two days I get with good weather I was going to wash, clay, glaze, seal, and then wax. I was hoping to not have to polish again. I worry about polishing the clear too thin. But I don't use aggressive stuff, I used meguiars UP last time. Is it right that new vehicles the clear is mixed with the paint?

The products I was planing on using were: duragloss 901 car wash concentrate. Meguiar's smooth surface clay kit. Meguiar's show car glaze. Meguiar's polymer sealant. And Meguiar's high tech yellow wax.

You don't mention whether you're working by hand or with a machine of some sort. If by hand, it's doubtful that you're removing any clear at all with UP - it's so mild that even with a DA buffer it's not going to remove much of anything. It's doubtful that it even with a DA you'd be able to remove etch marks with UP - we'd go Ultimate Compound without giving it a second thought. Now, you don't want to aggressively apply UC every month, but if you're being really careful how you wash and dry the truck, you may well find that you won't need to compound again for a couple of years. Yes, a couple of years. As an example, my daily driver is 11 years old and has just shy of 100,000 miles on it. I went over the car with M100 (much more aggressive than UC) over Christmas, and that was the first time I had done anything that aggressive in 5 years! I had used M205 on it a few times over that 5 year period, but even that was used pretty mildly. And you can ask anyone who's been to a Saturday class or TNOG what that car looks like and they'll all tell you it looks like it's brand new.... probably better than new, actually. I've been asked if it's been repainted. Nope, original factory paint. I say this not to pat myself on the back, but to demonstrate that with proper use of compounds and polishes you can, and will, keep a car looking truly "like new" if you're just a bit careful with how you approach it. Like you, I am very particular about how I wash and maintain this car. That is a huge part of keeping a car looking its best for many, many years. In fact, it's probably more important that one learns how to properly maintain a car than how to properly polish a car. Let's face it - if you don't create any damage, then you don't need to fix any damage. That's obviously the best scenario. But sometimes things beyond your control happen, as in your case with the water spot etching. When that happens, it's nice to know that you've not been hammering on the paint for years so you can safely remove that damage with the appropriately aggressive approach.

Now, to your question regarding the clear being mixed in with the paint on new vehicles: In short, no. For the vast majority of cars there is a dedicated clear coat on top of a color coat. The clear is what gives all the gloss and UV protection to the color coat below it. Some manufacturers do offer tinted clears, and working on those vehicles will slightly tint your applicator pad as you remove that very tiny bit of surface material, but it's pretty rare. Others use a so called "tri-coat" of some configuration, usually a base color, secondary pearlized coat, and a clear coat on top to maximize gloss and UV protection. A very, very few manufacturers still have single stage paints (Infiniti has a black single stage as recently as last year and Toyota has had a single stage white as recently as the past 5 or 6 years) but these are not old fashioned single stage lacquers or enamels like back in the 1960s and '70s. They are modern, catalyzed paints that are far more durable than those old lacquers and enamels. At the end of the day though, it really doesn't matter what paint configuration you have, they all get treated pretty much the same way. Sure, some will correct faster than others, some will be more prone to hazing than others, some will scratch easier than others. But the basic treatment is the same - wash, clean, polish, protect, maintain.

[JeremyD]

I have not had enough practice with my porter cable to feel comfortable doing it with it. So I'm probably going to do everything by hand.

Pictures coming soon

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

IMO Now"s a good time to get some practice in!

Seriously, DA"s are pretty foolproof.

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

IMO Now"s a good time to get some practice in!

Seriously, DA"s are pretty foolproof.

Agreed. Don't shy away from the DA. We are all intimidated at first but that goes away. Give it a shot.

[Eldorado2k]

If you're timid about using the DA for the 1st time it's always fun to practice on someone elses beater 1st. Pick a close relative who has a car that's trashed and neglected.
Then after washing and claying the entire hood lay a strip of masking tape down the middle of the hood and go to town with Ultimate Compound with a variety of pads if you want to experiment. You'll be pleasantly surprised with the results.

[JeremyD]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze


The spots are so mild that you cant see them hardly in the picture.

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

Photo is too small to see.

[JeremyD]

Re: Meguiars show car glaze

I took it with my iphone. Don't know why it uploaded that small. Don't know how to change it