Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

[Nighthawk117w]

Well, the title pretty much sums it up, I was wondering if a clay bar can get ruined by using APC with it.
I was cleaning my rims yesterday with APC and since there were some brake dust spots I couldn't get off easily, I decided to clay them.
Since I already had my bottle of APC with me I used this as lubricant and didn't bother going back upstairs to get UQD.
The problem is, an hour or so later, the clay bar started crumbling and seemed dried out completely.
Can this be caused by the APC? I had another clay bar that was bought at the same time and was stored under the same conditions and this one is still perfectly fine, so the only difference is the APC I used on one of them.

[C8N]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

Yes.
Other than the accepted clay lubes, any other chemical can break them apart.... even car soap.

[Nighthawk117w]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

Well, I didn't know that, thanks for clearing it up. Guess I have an excuse now to go and buy a new clay bar
I did use it with Gold Class Car wash before without any negative effects (that I know off), but I'll just stick to the UQD from now on.

[C8N]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

Although there is nothing wrong with using UQD as clay lube, considering the regular QD is cheaper, you might want to stick to the QD instead.

[The Guz]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

UQD is not intended to be used as clay lube either as it is too slick. I would stay with regular QD or D155 last touch.

See post #5.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?58398-Claying-Question&highlight=ultimate+quik+detailer+as+clay+lube

[davey g-force]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

^^

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Can a clay bar desintegrate when using it with APC?

The problem is, an hour or so later, the clay bar started crumbling and seemed dried out completely.

Honestly, we're surprised it took that long for APC to ruin the clay. We've seen some cleaners turn clay to a soupy mess almost instantly and others cause this crumbling situation very quickly as well.

As far as using car wash soap as a clay lube, the real downside is the potential for letting the solution dry on the surface and then having to clean up the soap film left behind. While it may sound like you're saving a step by claying with your soapy water, how effectively are you removing that soapy water from the surface? You can't just wipe it off; soapy water has to be rinsed. Quick detail sprays can in fact be simply wiped away. That's how they're designed to be used in the first place.

Regarding UQD as a clay lube, as has been mentioned we don't really recommend it due to the nature of the polymers it contains. They are so slick that they will likely slow down the claying process, compromising the clay's ability to do it's job effectively.