Another stupid question.

[Bruce Devilbiss]

I just bought some Meg's MF 5 and 3 inch cutting finishing pads along with the backing plate. When ever I try something new I always find a neighbor's old junk car or lawn mower to experiment on. My question is am I limited to What polishes or waxes that can be used with the MF pads? I know there is no clear coat on mowers but I seem to be taking paint off using a MF cutting pad with M205. Have not tried with UP or UW yet. So I was wandering if I should only be using M300 with MF pads?

[greg0303]

Re: Another stupid question.

DA Microfiber Correction System has been designed purposely that way: each liquid has its microfiber disc to use with. It has been tested that way as well for maximum performance. Therefore going outside its designed perimeters will also alter the final results. If you are tempted to try other products with microfiber discs, and many detailers have done it already, stay with modern non-diminishing (using super micro abrasive technology - SMAT) liquids, like M105/M205, Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish. With addition of D302 DA Polish (which is similar to UP) there is less and less need to look for extra products to go with MF discs.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Another stupid question.

On single stage you will see paint transfer with virtually any pad/product combo, even something as gentle as M07 Show Car Glaze applied by hand. In the case of the MF pads, you're working with a material that is much more aggressive than typical foam pads (although those would just as readily show paint transfer). Couple that with M205, which definitely has some cut, and paint transfer is to be expected.

As Greg points our, we developed the entire DAMF System as just that, a system. But it was developed as a system for use in volume reconditioning facilities that had certain other requirements, such as no to low dust, easy wipe off, and minimal products to deal with while providing excellent defect removal at the same time. D300 fits those requirements beautifully, but that doesn't mean it's the ONLY liquid you can use with the cutting pad. M105, M101 and M100 are all popular alternatives, but expect to see some dust, or even a lot of dust depending on which of those you opt for and how you use it. In some cases, you may even find that M205 on the MF cutting pad does an outstanding job. But before you experiment too much, give the system a try and get used to it. It can accomplish an awful lot on its own and is extremely easy to use with regard to dust and wipe off.

Over the weekend, for example, I had the opportunity to clean up a totally hammered 2006 Ford Escape with 110,000 miles on it. Owned by a single mom with a small child, it literally hadn't been washed in years. Tons of deep scratches down to the primer, dings and dents galore, and little to no gloss to the paint due to the massive amount of swirls and other scuff marks. The intent was NOT 100% correction, just a bit of a clean up before she sells it. Below is a 50/50 after using just D300 on a new Xtra Cut MF Disc:



The "before" is after the car had been washed, decontaminated with Iron-X (yes, I stepped outside our own line up, but we don't offer a similar product) and clayed with our C2100 Professional aggressive clay. The deepest scratches remain (no big deal, given the state of the rest of the car) and there is a bit of haze, but that cleans up super fast with D302, D301, M205 or even a cleaner wax. Zero dust, easy wipe off, and this level of improvement with a single, albeit longish, pass.

Get to know D300 on the DMC5 cutting disc before you start rethinking the "system" ..... it's pretty terrific stuff.

[thegooseman]

Holy Lord that's a huge difference!!!! Lol I love 50/50s. Shots like that always intrigue me.