Buffer marks?

[burnout189]

Hi all!
I'm new here, but I have done a lot of reading on here, and even searched, but I can't quite seem to find the answer to my "problem"

So I recently bought a 2008 toyota tundra, white in color. Upon inspecting the vehicle for purchase on a nice sunny day, the paint looked very nice for the age of the truck. I was very happy with the purchase and the condition of the truck for a few days, until the first time I parked in a well-lit parking lot.

So I come walking out of the store in the well lit parking lot, and upon scanning the lot, I find my beautiful, new (to me) truck parked way out in the back of the lot. Trouble is, that it has all these horrid looking, round buff marks EVERYWHERE!

I'm assuming that they are burned spots from buffing, but I'm not certain. The "spots" are virtually invisible in the day time, and also are very difficult to see after coming within about 10 feet of the truck. The further away from the truck you get, the worse it looks.

The "spots" themselves are not swirls or holograms ( I don't think) and in fact the paint seems to look good within the circular area, but there seems to be a hazing around the outside of the "circle" which is maybe 8" round. There are spots like this on almost all of the flat panels of the vehicle.

So what might cause this? And can I fix it? How? In thinking I'm going to buy a megs da polisher, some UC, UP, UW, and go to town, but does that seem like a reasonable solution or am I wasting time and money?

I got some crappy pics since the blemishes don't seem to show much on pics, but can't figure out how to post them here?

Sorry for the long story....
Thanks

[Stephan]

Re: Buffer marks?

I got some crappy pics since the blemishes don't seem to show much on pics, but can't figure out how to post them here?

Sorry for the long story....
Thanks

Scan thru this for inserting images:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?60104-How-To-Inserting-Images-Creating-Photo-Albums&p=537992#post537992

[burnout189]

Re: Buffer marks?

Thank you so much Stephan!

This is the best I can seem to capture on camera..... It Looks much worse in person. This spot in the hood is actually one if the less noticeable ones, but the ones on the vertical surfaces don't want to show on camera.

[burnout189]

Re: Buffer marks?

Alright, so u made an attempt to grab some more
pics tonight. Not a whole lot of luck, but a little better than what we had...

[Evan.J]

Re: Buffer marks?

Where in PA are you located?

[davey g-force]

Re: Buffer marks?

It's a bit hard to tell from the pics, but they look like either sanding marks that were not properly removed, or some spot repairs to the paint.

Either way, I reckon you could remove, or at least improve them with a DA, some UC, UP and UW.

[the other pc]

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...The "spots" themselves are not swirls or holograms ( I don't think) ...

Why don't you think so?

[GuessWho530]

Re: Buffer marks?

Upon looking at the image, it does look like it is a buffer burn mark, it may of been used to remove a "spot blemish" since you said that it is only in a few specific spots and not on the whole car. It is possible to remove it, but I can't really assure you 100% because none of us know how deep the burn had went through the clear.

[burnout189]

Re: Buffer marks?

Evan.J - I am in a town called Waynesboro. Right on the MD line, near chambersburg.

Theotherpc - it just doesn't look like your typical swirl or hologram. You can almost tell where the buffer was laid against the surface and held, and it's hazy around the outside of these areas. Not like what I'm used to wich is sort of
"lines" from a buffer.

its possible that these are a result of some sort of spot repairs. I don't believe they are sanding marks unless maybe from a wet sanding with very fine abrasives to remove blemishes. My mechanical automotive history leads me to believe that this is 100% original paint.

So is there any good way to locate and monitor these blemishes for the repair process, since they are not visible in daylight?

[C8N]

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Looks like the previous owner did some spot corrections using pretty aggressive combo for the paint and didn't clean it up.
It looks like buffer haze to me and since your truck is white, it will be very difficult to see.

If it is buffer haze, it is very easy to correct.
If you want to go nuts and since you can't really see them... I would go get some UP and go to town on the entire truck. Your truck will benefit from it regardless of whether or not the spots are corrected.
It would really depend on how the paint reacts but my guess is that UP on finishing pads should correct those spots if they are indeed buffer haze.

[burnout189]

Re: Buffer marks?

Thanks CBN I think I'm going to try that method. I would love to get it fixed up, an like you said, I'm sure the paint would benefit from a good cleaning/polishing anyway

[Merlin]

Re: Buffer marks?

It would really depend on how the paint reacts but my guess is that UP on finishing pads should correct those spots if they are indeed buffer haze.

I have had excellent results using UP and finishing discs to remove some very faint (but noticeable at the right angle) holograms/buffer trails.

It makes a great hologram killer combo!

[burnout189]

Re: Buffer marks?

Thanks guys. In definitely going to try this. Now I just need to convince the wife (and myself) to spend the money on a DA and all the accessories/chemicals

[Merlin]

Re: Buffer marks?

Thanks guys. In definitely going to try this. Now I just need to convince the wife (and myself) to spend the money on a DA and all the accessories/chemicals

Here's how it goes...We all know "You can't do by hand what you can accomplish by machine." In this case, it sounds like the damage was done with a machine and it can not be corrected by hand. You may be able to use UC and/or UP by hand and correct the spots. IMHO a DA is a required tool to maintain your vehicle. Think of it this way...would you cut your grass without a lawn mower?

[C8N]

Re: Buffer marks?

Thanks CBN I think I'm going to try that method. I would love to get it fixed up, an like you said, I'm sure the paint would benefit from a good cleaning/polishing anyway

Yep... and since UP and finishing pads are a mild combo, there should be minimal worries about taking off too much clear coat.