Confused about "finishing wax"

[VanCityWW]

I have the MF correction system, and after applying the "finishing wax", I apply the ultimate paste wax. My question is, does the paste wax actually stick to the finishing wax? And if I want to put carnauba (car show) on top of that, will that stick?

Thanks in advance

[davey g-force]

Re: Confused about "finishing wax"

As far as bonding, all Megs products are compatible, so there's no issue there.

The UPW may remove some/all of the finishing wax below it though. Carnauba on top of UPW (sealant) is fine.

[The Guz]

Re: Confused about "finishing wax"

Pulled from this thread.

Post #11

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?47855-Using-Meguiar-s-D-A-Microfiber-Correction-System/page2&highlight=D301

Originally Posted by Selectchoice
Just a quick question. How does the finishing wax, which obviously has corrective ability of sorts, compare to say Nxt 2.0, M21 and Ultimate Wax? I ask in the sense of hydrophobic qualities and longevity. Is there any benefit to following the finishing wax with one of these products, or will they be redundant if choosing to use this system?

While the durability of the Finishing Wax is quite good, it's not on par with the three sealants you mention. Think of it more like M26 or Gold Class in that regard. Further, it does not contain any hydrophobic polymers like the three sealants do. By all means, if you're looking to extend the durability of this system, top it with the sealant of your choice. But don't skip the finishing wax step - in fact, if you plan on using a sealant over it, think of the finishing wax as a finishing polish along the lines of Ultimate Polish. Because of it's light cutting ability it will remove any hazing that may be created in the compounding step and leave a very nice finish behind. Perfect for topping with a longer lasting product if you so desire.

[h_bomm]

Re: Confused about "finishing wax"

Do you need to let the Finishing Wax cure before applying ULW over it or is it ok to apply right away?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Confused about "finishing wax"

Let's take a quick look at what we're really dealing with here, especially when it comes to using multiple types of the same basic product (in this case, wax).

First off, D301 DA Microfiber Finishing Wax. This wax was designed to be part of the DAMF System, specifically to do the double duty of removing very fine DA haze that might be created during the correction process (D300/DMC5 pad) while leaving some wax protection behind at the same time. It is not designed to be a highly durable wax, but rather one that is super fast drying and incredibly easy to remove. If you wish to top it with something more durable, like Ultimate Wax, feel free to do so. There is no real need to wait any period of time between wipe off of D301 and application of UW or any other wax/sealant. Keep in mind you do not have to apply another wax on top of D301, but it is an option.

If you choose to apply a very durable synthetic, like Ultimate Wax, you can do so right over D301 or, if the paint looks fantastic after D300 alone, there there is no reason at all why you can't just go straight to UW. Or, if you prefer, you can refine the surface even further with UP or M205 prior to applying UW if you so desire - whether the paint requires it or you just like doing it.

Should you choose to top UW with a carnauba wax (Gold Class, M26, etc) then for absolutely maximum result you should allow UW to fully cure after wipe off, and prior to applying that carnauba. Cure time will vary due to temp and humidity, but somewhere between 12 and 24 hours will do it. Obviously it's a total waste to apply a cleaner wax over UW or any other base wax/sealant, so choose your topper wisely. Again, there is absolutely no need to apply a carnauba on top of a synthetic. If you choose to do so we can only assume it's because you, personally, on your car, see a positive improvement when doing so. Not everyone can see these subtle differences so this practice isn't for everyone. But if you can see a difference, and the time required for this additional step is agreeable to you, then go for it!