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    Today I had privilege of working on a Porsche Turbo for a customer and all I can say its that Im glad I take readings on every car I do along with every panel I plan on polishing.


    With the Porsche all washed and decontaminated I pulled out my PTG (Paint Thickness Gauge) and took my reading starting with the hood. What I found was thickness from 8.5 mils all the way up to 10.4 mils. After speaking with the owner about the hood he has stated that he heard that the hood had been repainted at some point (as were my thoughts after seeing the thickness).





    I then took to the rest of the car finding your typical factory paint thickness anywhere from 3.7 mils to 5.4 mils.


    While going around the car I was on the driver side door taking measurement and I was stopped dead in my tracks. I was taking reading of 1.8 mils and lower :wow:.


    I could not believe what I was finding. On the door the lowest reading I took was 1.2 mils and the highest was 1.8 mils.





    For those of you that don't know thats very very thin in over all paint thickness NOT just the clear coat. I then explained to the customer my findings and told him that its too risky to do any correction on that door panel at all and the chances of sticking through are very good and thats not something I am willing to do. I said for that panel I will take a finishing polish and finish pad over then panel but nothing more and he was very understanding and thankful that I explained this to him.


    The point that I am trying to make is that a PTG should be in everyones bag if you doing work on cars. You also need to get the history at all possible about the car as well.


    If I had not had a PTG and took reading there could have been a very good chance that I would have struck through the paint on this car causing nothing but damage and having an upset customer that might have never returned to do business again.


    Don't be a guessing or blind detailer and hope that you won't strike through because if you not taking readings then you are running that risk. I would never want to see anyone run into a problem like this and do damage to a vehicle because they did not have the tools to know what they are working on. A PTG will provide you with the info that is needed to help you make better designs when working on cars.


    Better to be safe than sorry :props:
    Rupes 21 / Flex 3401 / G110v2 / GG3"
    Thoryamaha919 AKA Evan
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    Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

    Thanks for the valuable lesson! That's not something I ever would have thought of, and not mentioned in the stickies that I've read.

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    • #3
      Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

      What PTG is recommended....these units are very pricey
      "STRIFE" aka Phil
      2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe (IP/ aka White) the Toy
      2011 Subaru Impreza (SWP/ aka White) the DD
      2017 Subaru Forester (CWP/ aka White) Wifey's

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        Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

        Originally posted by STRIFE View Post
        What PTG is recommended....these units are very pricey
        Sent you a PM
        Rupes 21 / Flex 3401 / G110v2 / GG3"
        Thoryamaha919 AKA Evan
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          Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

          Originally posted by Evan.J View Post
          Sent you a PM
          Why? We would all like to know

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            Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

            eBay search for the CM8801FN you will be looking at about 130-140 for a price.
            Rupes 21 / Flex 3401 / G110v2 / GG3"
            Thoryamaha919 AKA Evan
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            • #7
              Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

              These are true words of wisdom from a quality detailer..

              I cant post the article i had written about this because Evan beat me to the punch...

              Good job
              Christopher Brown | OCDCarCare Los Angeles - Auto Detailing Services & Training Courses
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              • #8
                Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

                It can be quite shocking indeed to come across paint that thin. We are always stunned to read about someone wet sanding on a car, especially for the first time ever, without using a paint thickness gauge. Proud statements like "that was easy and I never went through the clear!" are not an indication of how straightforward the process is, but how little the person posting that comment really understands about the process. Consider this: let's say your clear coat is 2 mils thick and you sand/buff away 1.9 mils. Have you gone through the clear coat? Nope. But you have so little left that it's going to fail prematurely, and maybe even quite soon. But you have now way of knowing that without a PTG. This is the time to break out the old saying "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades".

                OK, so the above comments deal with wet sanding where we know we are taking off a lot of material pretty quickly. What about regular ol' paint polishing and swirl removal? Well, in this world of ever increasing cut levels available from liquids, pads and even tools, the danger level goes up. Add to that the fact that we so many people using these new materials in very aggressive manners (lots of tool speed and/or pressure) and the risk factor goes way up. It's all too common to read on a detailing forum that "it's impossible to burn through your paint with DA buffer" when that simply is not true. In Evan's case with this Porsche, let's say he lacked the skill and experience that he has and just decided to dive in. And let's say there were some fairly heavy swirls throughout the vehicle so he jumps in with our new Xtra Cut Microfiber Disc and some M105 on his G110v2 buffer, cranks it up to 5.5 and really goes to town. In no time he's obliterating the heavy defects on the hood and he thinks he's one killer detailer. As he moves around to the driver's side door using the same technique, all of a sudden his pad is turning red, and so are his and his client's faces. His with embarrassment, his client's with rage.

                If all you ever do is to remove some light swirls from your own cars and those cars are pretty new and you aren't using highly aggressive processes when taking care of them, a PTG probably isn't a necessity. But if you're getting into more and more working on the side for some extra cash and you're coming across more and more different vehicles, then dropping $150 on a PTG is actually fairly cheap insurance. Let's face it - a pro detailer who makes a living detailing cars is going to have insurance to cover almost any eventuality (or they sure as heck better have it!). But it's highly doubtful that anyone "detailing on the side" and doing just a car or two a month is going to be insured against the potential costs of repainting a panel (or the whole car).

                Great write up, Evan!!
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #9
                  Re: Why Paint Thickness Reading are Important

                  Thanks Michael!

                  Great addition to my topic as well!
                  Rupes 21 / Flex 3401 / G110v2 / GG3"
                  Thoryamaha919 AKA Evan
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