help needed!

[Christopher.Brown]

Re: help needed!

yea the G110v2 will definitely yield better results for you between the two and if youre only using it on personal cars it will last a long time

[Jarhead0754]

I'de say just go ahead and skip the da power system and get the g110v2. Sure it's a little more expensive but definitely worth it. Plus the power system is really more for a smaller work area. I think everybody will prob agree to get the g110v2, it's just gonna give u more control.

[valferca]

Re: help needed!

I dont have either of them. I have a regular 7" orbital. But I'll be getting the DA Power System for the drill tomorrow, at least for now to see how it goes.

[h_bomm]

Re: help needed!

Are you using the DA Power System on a drill or do you have a full size G110v2? I forgot what you said you had

[valferca]

Re: help needed!

Yes..I agree...it makes sense to go with the least abrassive product first. I'll apply the UC with the yellow pad and the UP with the black pad then.
Thanks for all the help. Ill keep you guys updated

[Christopher.Brown]

Re: help needed!

well for the finish step i would, WITHOUT A DOUBT, use the black finishing pad on speed 2 on the G110v2..

Your defects ** APPEAR** [from the bove pics} severe enough to warrant the red cutting pad, which is meguiar's most aggressive....

If you have the means, id start with the yellow pad.. and if thats not cutting it, move to the red pad for added cutting power..


as a general rule you want to use the product/methodology that is least invasive and more gentle while getting the most cutting effenciency for your time.. You can always ramp up in aggressiveness after trying something.. you dont want to start more aggressive than necessary and remove any more clear coat than is necessary to level the paint, while removing scratches

[valferca]

Re: help needed!

i dont see any CC damage from those pics... Id say use UC [with a yellow cutting pad]..... make a few slow, 50% overlapping, cross-hatching passes with the machine on speed 5-6 [one inch per second] with medium to heavy pressure and see the difference.... it should be dramatic.... then i would follow it up with UP on a finishing pad [black] and turn the machine down to 2-3 and lighten up the pressure.

i think youll like the results

let us know the progress please

Thanks guys for all the help!
I will go with the ultimate compound and ultimate polish. Ill be working on the car next weekend, ill keep you guys updated.
Hopefully the paint on next week pics will look so much better

Christopher do you recommend going with the yellow and black pad instead of using the red for the uc and the yellow for the up?

[Christopher.Brown]

Re: help needed!

i dont see any CC damage from those pics... Id say use UC [with a yellow cutting pad]..... make a few slow, 50% overlapping, cross-hatching passes with the machine on speed 5-6 [one inch per second] with medium to heavy pressure and see the difference.... it should be dramatic.... then i would follow it up with UP on a finishing pad [black] and turn the machine down to 2-3 and lighten up the pressure.

i think youll like the results

let us know the progress please

[BlackRam]

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It actually makes complete sense. People seem to team them up so the oils from 205 and up can be added back to the paint for what 105 and uc removed.

[h_bomm]

I guess "safe bet" is as good a way to put it as any. 105 and 205 are from the Mirror Glaze with 105 being the more aggressive of the 2. UC is derived from 105 and UP is derived from 205. UC and UP are "consumer" level products that doesn't mean they are inferior products, but they are easier to work with for your average joe. I use UC and UP mostly because they ARE easy to use and also they are readily available at your Targets and Wal Marts and so on. At the same time you don't HAVE to pair them off like it may seem when they are usually mentioned. There is nothing wrong using UC as your compound and finishing with 205 for example. I hope I didn't confuse you too much!

[BlackRam]

Re: help needed!

I see alot of people recommend UC w/UP or 105 w/ 205. Are these combos a "safe bet" for a daily driver looking to get the minor swirls out?

[h_bomm]

Re: help needed!

I guess the only way to find out is to try using Ultimate Compound and see what happens. If your clear is already damaged then you can't do any more harm. I have a feeling it will come out just fine. It looks like some swirling. Try it out on a rear corner first. You said that you were going to invest in the DA Power System which is a good idea. Work a small area, 2 x 2 or so and work the product up and down then left and right till the UC is thin but still wet and wipe off with a microfiber towel. You have a small car so that will speed up the process a little! After using UC, I have a feeling most, if not all, of your swirling will be gone. Then you can use Ultimate Polish if you choose. Just make sure you don't use the same pad and towels for UP that you did for UC.

[valferca]

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Yes I agree with you that I inflicted the swirls when I apply the polisher

So do you guys think the paint looks like that just because the technique created a lot of swirls in the paint? or is it because I went to deep and damaged the clear-coat?
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Thanks guys for all the help!!!

[valferca]

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UP is less aggressive than UC. M205 is like UP but on steroids. It will give you more correcting ability. You should definitely invest in a DA polisher. Removing swirls by machine is the way to go. Doing it by hand is tiresome and will not remove most of the swirls. Harbor freight has a decent DA that just needs a 5" inch backing plate and pads. If not you could get the meguiar's DA power system to use with a drill and the proper pads.



If you are just starting out with detailing, I would start with UC and UP. M105 has a little bit of a learning curve if you are new to all of this.


As I stated earlier I looked at your pics and the car has a lot of swirls. They come from improper washing techniques or from automatic car washes with the brushes. UC and UP will fix those right up and give the car's clear some clarity.

Alright Ill try my luck with the UC & UP combo first. Yes, the car has a lot of swirls now but they came after using the turtle wax polishing compound. Before that, it was perfectly fine..with just some minor swirls almost unnoticeable. Now the swirls are so bad that the paint looks hazed and doesn't have that wet look anymore. So I'm pretty sure most of the swirls came from me using the wrong polishing technique

[CCC4me]

Re: help needed!

Why do you think my paint looks like that?

The regular use of #7 has been hiding (filling in) the swirls. The use of the Turtle Wax removed the #7, plus it may have inflicted its own swirls depending on your technique.

Do you think by using this products will improve the finish and give the paint back its wet look? Or will it look worse since ill be removing more clearcoat? I just want to be as safe as possible before applying any more products on the paint.

Yes the M205 used properly will get the paint looking much better. As others have said, the Ultimate Compound would be the next step if 205 doesn't get it, but I think 205 will. You're not very far from Meguiar's--maybe you can make it to one of their classes soon?