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    Waxing woes

    Ok so I have a black car and have been using meguiar products on it since I got it. A full detail consists of:

    1) Ultimate wash and Wax
    2) Clay with Quick detailer (sometimes I use ultimate quick detailer (i know its too slick) but it is impossible to find quick detailer in Montreal)
    3) Ultimate Polish with DA
    4) Ultimate Liquid Wax with DA

    I don't know where I go wrong, but I'm having issues at the end, when the car is in the sun there are some streaks that are visible. I think it is the wax.
    I live in Montreal and the humidity around here is generally around 70%. I'll wax in temperatures anywhere from 10C to 30C. Always in the shade.

    With the ultimate liquid wax Ill spread it with the DA at a speed setting of 2. If I do 2 panels or more the wax is REALLY hard to remove on the first panel. If I do one panel and then remove I feel like it is too quick and I think this causes the smudges. I'm not sure. I do the swipe test all the time but it never works for me. The wax always smudges - whether I wait 30 seconds or 15 minutes.

    What am I doing wrong? How long does one normally let the wax sit before removing? Please help in any way! Should I try paste wax instead? Whats the real difference? Can paste be applied with the DA?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Waxing woes

    If it is damp, work in the sun.

    Also, there really is no swipe test. Just remove with a slightly damp towel, and maybe a dry follow-up towel.

    the paste would be a bit more traditional, as far as dying like you may be used to.
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    • #3
      Re: Waxing woes

      Yeah, the liquid version doesn't need to haze / dry before removing. You basically apply it super thin to a panel or two, then remove.

      Even then, I get some streaking sometimes and I've heard of many others that do too. If that's the case, you can eliminate the streaking by very lightly misting some water onto your MF towel and buffing it off. I've found UQD eliminates the streaking for me too.

      The paste version has a more traditional application - apply to the whole car, let dry, then remove. I've also heard it does not streak like the liquid version can. The paste can be applied via DA, you just need to either use a pad small enough to fit into the tin, or scrape it out of the tin and onto the pad with a spatula or similar (like spreading butter onto toast).
      Originally posted by Blueline
      I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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      • #4
        Re: Waxing woes

        Thanks for the replies! I have no clue why anyone would use the liquid one then. I can't even remember why I got it myself. I like that idea though, UQD to get some streaking out. What do you do when it becomes super hard to remove (after like 2-3 minutes)? I think I'm going to buy some paste wax and try that out when my liquid runs out. Which may be in a long time since I have a bottle and a half.

        As far as using a damp towel to remove, then f/u with a dry towel - I've heard a wet or damp towel is what causes the streaking. Is this not accurate?

        And as far as doing it in the sun - I don't think I could ever bring myself to do that. Not with a black car.... I cringe just thinking about it.

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        • #5
          Re: Waxing woes

          It really shouldn't be hard to remove. In fact, ULW is one of the easiest to remove waxes I've come across.

          I suspect you may be applying it too thick. You need to apply super thin - so thin you can barely see it.

          If you are having troubles removing it though, I would try some UQD.
          Originally posted by Blueline
          I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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          • #6
            Re: Waxing woes

            Sounds like too thick an application to me as well. This ULW a thin film polymer technology and it should even be a bit hard to see where you applied it. This is likely why you are seeing streaking as well.

            I use ULW and never have any streaking. The reason I like ULW over the paste version are: It doesn't stain trim and it can be used in direct sun. On the trim, I no longer use a trim dressing. I use ULW instead and it leaves a nice long lasting sheen that doesn't wash off in the rain like many trim detailers will. Give it another try and apply it really thin and I bet you will be fine.
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            • #7
              Re: Waxing woes

              I have been on the boards for a while reading a lot, and I have read that it must be applied very thin, and I am conscious of that. I try to apply thin, maybe I am doing it still too thick? Ill give it a try next time. Might be in a while because my car is going into storage very shortly. (-_-; quebec winters...)

              I like the ULW because I can get it on everything as well. I wax the trim and my windows - creates a Rain-X like effect.
              But I find my trim is starting to fade and look bland. Really is weird because my paint looks impeccable. Is there a product or technique that can breathe life back into it? Ever hear of "Wipe New"?

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              • #8
                Re: Waxing woes

                I enjoy using ULW on black trim and molding as well. A thin coat is all that is needed, and I have found that hand application works best for me. Removal is usually very simple and straight forward.

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