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  • Few Questions for DA Usage and Product Amounts

    Greetings,

    After doing quite a bit of research on these forums, I recently purchased a DA, Gold Wash, Clay Kit, SwirlX, UP, Deep Crystal Polish, and ULW. This is to be used on my '13 Regal GS which has the black diamond tricoat paint.

    I had a somewhat bad bird drop etching right in the center of the hood (hadn't even realized that was possible) and some minor swirling from my noobish attempts to remove it prior to finding these forums. I did a dual bucket wash, a complete clay baring, and then applied the SwirlX with the DA to a 1.5x1.5 area of the hood where the etching was. After 3 rounds of light pressure, it was completely removed, as well as any swirling; complete success.

    I then set about applying UP to the entire car to remove any fine swirls that may have been there from previous washings (hard to see swirls in that diamond paint). Seems to have worked well, but my question is, how much product should I be applying, and what is the best method for on the fly cleaning? What I have been doing for the first application, is applying a small amount in the "X" fashion as shown in all the videos. I then do two sections, and an on the fly cleaning. For subsequent passes, I put 5 small blobs on the pad, as shown in the DA tutorial under the waxing section. Is that correct for applying polishers, or is it too much or too little? I was trying the on the fly method of pushing it against the terry cloth and turning it on, but it seems like even when it's on a setting of 1, it's too much friction and the pad heats up quickly. What I was doing instead, was just applying even pressure to the pad with the cloth when it was off, followed by working my fingers around the pad with the cloth and pushing out the wetter areas. It seemed like I had quite a lot of wet product in the pad, yet when I'm applying it to the car it seems to be drying quite quickly so I don't think I'm applying to much. Maybe I should be working it longer on paint with the DA to use more of it? It's hard to tell when it's too dry. Is it normal to feel like you're wasting a lot of product, or is there a better way to use more of it up?

    My last question, when you're applying pure polishes or waxes, is it always necessary to clay bar it first, or is just a good wash adequate if the paint feels smooth to the touch because it's recently been clayed? I plan on using pure polish and wax fairly often.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Few Questions for DA Usage and Product Amounts

    Fluids migrate to the center of the pads. So once the center starts accumulating liquid, I only add product near the outside of the pad. Also, with the machine off, I press it onto a couple of spots on the next section (or panel) so it pushes product onto the paint. You can then use that while reducing the amount of additional product needed.

    In the same vein, I don't use an X to prime the pad, I think it puts to much product in the center right off the bat. So I use circles (or whatever else depending on my mood and how thick the product is), applying more towards the outside edge of the pad. Then like above, I pat the pad a couple of times with the machine off onto the area I'm going to work on. Then go back to the wetter first pat area and start the machine from there.

    You only need to clay when you have junk ON your paint. After a good claying, you may only need to hit a couple areas for maintenance or maybe not at all (search this site for the "baggie test"). So depending on garaging, weather, birds, etc., maybe once or twice a year clay the whole car when you do a full detail.
    2018 Acura RLX Tech - Majestic Black Pearl

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      Re: Few Questions for DA Usage and Product Amounts

      Here's a link to the defacto pad cleaning document on MoL.

      2018 Acura RLX Tech - Majestic Black Pearl

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        Re: Few Questions for DA Usage and Product Amounts

        Great advice Stephan.

        I'm a "circle around the outside of the pad" kinda guy as well
        Originally posted by Blueline
        I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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        • #5
          Re: Few Questions for DA Usage and Product Amounts

          That makes good, logical sense. Thank you.

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