What to do with this car?

[Murr1525]

Re: What to do with this car?

Or the DA Power System is a good option, if someone at least has a decent drill.

Can just focus on the UC/Cutting pads, and do the polishing waxing by hand or with the other buffer.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: What to do with this car?

Honestly, a big part of the problem here is the buffer itself. The one you're using just doesn't have a lot of power. You mentioned that it slows down quite a bit when you put some pressure on it, and a good DA buffer made for serious paint correction (including our own G110v2, the Porter Cable 7424XP or Griot's Garage 6") can take quite a bit of pressure and still keep the pad rotating. Couple the low power of the buffer you're using and a bonnet or two that doesn't much cut in its own right, and you're going to struggle to get the results you're looking for.

That said, if you find that you are starting to make some progress, by all means stick with it. Just understand that the final result may not be quite as good as you were hoping for, you're going to need more time to get that point, and you'll most likely use more product than normal.

[Murr1525]

Re: What to do with this car?

You may get one or two more...

If you can do some UC with one, then more UC with the other. Then wash by hand and dry overnight, or something like that.

The polish and wax can use one applicator for the whole time really, but real cleaning can go better with cleaner pads.

[Detailing by M]

Re: What to do with this car?

well use what you can get. You'll just have to learn how to use it.

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

Yeah, 5 minutes is loads of working time.

Use less, at least a bit more pressure, and also slowing down arm motions if needed.

Also, do you only have one bonnet to pick from? The cleaner it is, the more work it can do.

Well I went to Canadian Tire and they only had one brand that would fit the buffer Simoniz. I picked up a wool bonnet but the thing would have probably fit an 8" buffer better than the advertised 6" and it ripped after 30 seconds of use. They come in a package of 2 for $10. I took them back for full refund and got two Simoniz 6" foam bonnets that worked better. I just used the one for applying UC and was going to use the other for polish and then use a microfibre towel for wax. I will use whatever combination you guys recommend as I am completely new to this.

[Murr1525]

Re: What to do with this car?

Yeah, 5 minutes is loads of working time.

Use less, at least a bit more pressure, and also slowing down arm motions if needed.

Also, do you only have one bonnet to pick from? The cleaner it is, the more work it can do.

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

I use a lot of pressure, sometimes if it is needed. I depends on the paint, let the paint tell you what it likes. Let the paint speak to you.
Pressure and slow speed removes defects and lighter pressure and faster RPM create shine. So you have to find the "happy medium"
I don't think you'll burn out the motor.
I've use a lot of buffers from cheap to expensive and haven't kill on yet.

Great thanks PWMD! I found that more pressure cuts deeper and brings out the colour faster. But I'm using a borrowed 6-in Turtle Wax Polisher/Waxer and was afraid of ruining it by applying constant pressure. At the rate this is going I have to do it in chunks and driving around with a nice shiny trunk lid

[Detailing by M]

Re: What to do with this car?

I use a lot of pressure, sometimes if it is needed. I depends on the paint, let the paint tell you what it likes. Let the paint speak to you.
Pressure and slow speed removes defects and lighter pressure and faster RPM create shine. So you have to find the "happy medium"
I don't think you'll burn out the motor.
I've use a lot of buffers from cheap to expensive and haven't kill on yet.

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

It just looks like your not working it long enough.
there shouldn't be any compound on your paint after your done working it.
This is a common mistake.
Use less, a lot less a nickel size at the most, very little product will go a long way.

Thanks for the tips. Would you say downward pressure is more important than RPM? If I apply more pressure the buffer runs slower - maybe burn the motor out that way?

[Detailing by M]

Re: What to do with this car?

It just looks like your not working it long enough.
there shouldn't be any compound on your paint after your done working it.
This is a common mistake.
Use less, a lot less a nickel size at the most, very little product will go a long way.

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

Does the UC seem to be soaking up into the bonnet too much, or drying out too quickly?

It does I get maybe 5 minutes with a heavy coating of UC before it disappears. But if I run the buffer along an edge UC accumulates along the edge as if it was being scraped off the bonnet, and I can touch the bonnet and its wet, but the car surface is absent any compound after about 5 minutes.

[Murr1525]

Re: What to do with this car?

Does the UC seem to be soaking up into the bonnet too much, or drying out too quickly?

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

I'm using a 6-in buffer because I was able to borrow it, but I used a foam bonnet for it, should I be using something else?

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

Well my camera is not as good as the one used to take the other photos. But here is the trunk lid after applying nearly a whole bottle of UC with a 6-in buffer over the course of about 2 hours.



It looks great but is there something I'm doing wrong that it is taking so long and using so much of the UC? I've watched the instructional videos on youtube and tried to duplicate them.

[RyanCan]

Re: What to do with this car?

Well, faded paint is usually dried out, so getting a nice coat of oil on the surface to sink in will help keep it healthier longer. And of course wax for protection.

One thing that wasnt mentioned is ff the paint on the car is still pretty healthy, and just the surface was messed up, your results should stay for a long time if you keep it protected. If the paint is failing, then your results may start to go back white again after a few days even if protected.

You dont want to pick up rust on your applicator pads, but other than that, probably easier to UC before doing lots of touch ups.

Is there any way to tell what condition the paint is in? And what is single stage paint? Is that just primer, base and clear rolled into one?

Here is a picture of the door with the adhesive and rust. I have been using a soft wire brush to scrape off the rust and go over it with Sun Yellow Rustoleum - I started on the inside-bottom of the doors to test colors and initially started with Holland Yellow Tremclad but it didn't match well enough. The rust here doesn't look too deep and some of it came off while scrubbing with Armor All Car Wash