can't remove m105 swirls

[WILLTHARE7]

Hello I rotary machine polished my Audi a4 Ming blue I used m105 with menzarna pads. I tryed 105 and polishing pad but didn't do much so moved to a compound pad it worked but left buffer swirls that are not to bad but annoying so I followed with 205 and finishing pad no luck so then tryed the polishing pad with 205 then finish 205 with finishing pad but still no luck. Any suggestions.

Cheers

[thepanchmx]

What speed are you usong? Removing those swirls with a rotary can be tricky, try a spot by hand with m205 with medium to low pressure, if that remove the swirls you are spining too fast and not proper technique

[Detailing by M]

Re: can't remove m105 swirls

Rotary, foam and 105 is an aggressive approach. What were you trying to accomplish?
Anyways, you'll need to switch pads. I don't know what kind of pad your using but it's not doing the job.
The problem isn't 105 it's the pad and your techniques.
I have never had this problem.
use a yellow Meg's pad speed around 1500, light pressure, very little product (a quarter at most), light pressure and you should be fine.
Posting pics would help too.

[WILLTHARE7]

Hey thanks I was round bout 1000 rpm

[WILLTHARE7]

Rotary, foam and 105 is an aggressive approach. What were you trying to accomplish?
Anyways, you'll need to switch pads. I don't know what kind of pad your using but it's not doing the job.
The problem isn't 105 it's the pad and your techniques.
I have never had this problem.
use a yellow Meg's pad speed around 1500, light pressure, very little product (a quarter at most), light pressure and you should be fine.
Posting pics would help too.

Well I had the car detailed and the bloke left really bad buffer swirls and I tryed 205 first and didn't work so moved up to 105 its made them a lot better it's just when the sun is fully out you can see very faint buffer swirls. I thought the proberlem is the menz pads.

Cheers mate

[Detailing by M]

Re: can't remove m105 swirls

Hey thanks I was round bout 1000 rpm

That is a cutting speed and is a little low for what your want to accomplish. Bring the RP speed up and then back down. (check diagrams below) Slow will create more heat and a deeper cut so fast will let the pad glide over the paint more and polish it to a fine finish. A more advanced technique is to bring the speed back down but this takes talent. An easier way is to switch to a finer polish and a gentler pad creates the same defect removal.

Well I had the car detailed and the bloke left really bad buffer swirls and I tried 205 first and didn't work so moved up to 105 its made them a lot better it's just when the sun is fully out you can see very faint buffer swirls. I thought the problem is the menz pads.

Cheers mate

I'm thinking the Menz pad might be the problem too. But I'm not familiar with it. Crossing product lines can sometimes work and sometimes not. So hopefully with switching to a Meg's cut or soft buff pad will give you the results you want.

Here are some educational diagrams about Rotary Polishers they might help you understand more about what your actually doing:

[WILLTHARE7]

Hey thanks I was round bout 1000 rpm

That is a cutting speed and is a little low for what your want to accomplish. Bring the RP speed up and then back down. (check diagrams below) Slow will create more heat and a deeper cut so fast will let the pad glide over the paint more and polish it to a fine finish. A more advanced technique is to bring the speed back down but this takes talent. An easier way is to switch to a finer polish and a gentler pad creates the same defect removal.

Well I had the car detailed and the bloke left really bad buffer swirls and I tried 205 first and didn't work so moved up to 105 its made them a lot better it's just when the sun is fully out you can see very faint buffer swirls. I thought the problem is the menz pads.

Cheers mate

I'm thinking the Menz pad might be the problem too. But I'm not familiar with it. Crossing product lines can sometimes work and sometimes not. So hopefully with switching to a Meg's cut or soft buff pad will give you the results you want.

Here are some educational diagrams about Rotary Polishers they might help you understand more about what your actually doing:

Yea so I'll get some megs pads. Will megs pads fit on a menzarna backing plate.

Thanks mate them pics are very helpfull

[aerogt01]

How is that relevant when M105 doesn't break down?

[Detailing by M]

Re: can't remove m105 swirls

"Here are some educational diagrams about Rotary Polishers they might help you understand more about what your actually doing"

I didn't say "this is what M105 is doing"
Understanding the Zenith Plateau helps you understand how the RP works.
It's relevet to any compound be it DAT or SMAT and the use of a Rotary Polisher.