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  • Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

    Is this paint saveable? I have tried using hand applied Ultimate Compound on a test spot but it just soaked it up in a minute or 2. I have a dual action polisher.. Any suggestions?





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    Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

    You might apply a coat of Ultimate Polish with the DA. This will add some oil's to the dry paint. Then, apply a coat of Ultimate Compound with your DA. Ensure it is done on a cool surface and in the shade. Only work it for a few minutes and then remove with a MF towel.

    James

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    • #3
      Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

      Did your applicator turn red at all?
      2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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      • #4
        Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

        Originally posted by Murr1525 View Post
        Did your applicator turn red at all?

        Yes when I tried it with hand application...I will be trying the previous tech. in a few minutes

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        • #5
          Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

          You need to get some #7 show car glaze and really let it soak in. Lots of good write-ups on here about using it.

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          • #6
            Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

            Yeah, I would want to try and get a product with a lot of oils on there first.

            A pure polish like Deep Crystal or #7 would be good.

            Or a cleaner polish like #80 or Ult. Polish.
            2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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            • #7
              Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

              This article deals with restoration of older single-stage paint:http://www.autotraderclassics.com/ca...sationId=21363

              Since your Mazda is actually newer paint technology you may not benefit as much from the force-feeding of M07 into the paint as older finishes do. However, you will very likely benefit from the use of an oil-rich product to moisturize your apparently parched paint, even if you do any serious compounding after, I'd recommend trying M80, using as aggressive of a pad as you have available. If you test spot achieves the desired results, but leaves swirls behind due to the pad, you can always repeat the procedure the using the same product with less-aggressive pad.

              Bill

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              • #8
                Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                That's some seriously dried out paint you're playing with, but since it's single stage (even though it's a more modern single stage) it's going to benefit from something a bit more oil rich - either M07 or even M80.

                The pic below is a '64 Chevy wagon that was recently in our garage for a couple of TNOG sessions. If we could bring back this nasty old paint, you should be able to do the same with this Miata roof.

                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #9
                  Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                  Too bad you live so far away. I'd enjoy playing with some test spots on your Mazda, just to see if what I've learned on older single-stage paint restoration works on the later models. The only thing I've done anywhere close to your Miata was an early 90's red Toyota Celica about 10 years ago. . I used M03 by machine and it worked pretty well, but I felt something with a bit more cut would have been much quicker and more effective. I didn't even know about M80 at the time, nor did I know that M07 was so effective as a first-step product, before you did any buffing. Please keep us posted on your progress, good or not so good.

                  Bill

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                    Here it is .....It looks good from 5 feet away but when 9-10 inches away I still see many small fine scratches. Most came off but about 30 percent are still there. I used 2 coats of #7 allowing it to soak in for about 20 minutes for each heavy coat. I then followed with a D.A polisher Ultimate Compound with red pad.

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                    • #11
                      OH SNAP! It looks awesome. Amazing job. Always have loved SS paint, makes you feel like you are a miracle worker.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                        Originally posted by THERUIZFAMILY View Post
                        ......I used 2 coats of #7 allowing it to soak in for about 20 minutes for each heavy coat. I then followed with a D.A polisher Ultimate Compound with red pad.
                        that's what I was thinking. Glad to see it worked out. now don't let it dry out again.

                        DetailingByM.com

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                          It is possible the red pad may leave some marring.

                          At this point, it may take a little playing to get the best finish. But you could look at UC with the yellow pad, or a miler product like Ult. Polish, #80, with the yellow pad.
                          2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                            A great transformation! After you've done the enitre car, why not post the before and after shots? The red or burgundy pad isn't recommended for DA Polishers, I'd stick with the yellow pads with UC and Ult. Polish, after that maybe use a finishing pad with Ult. Polish to really bring out the shine. M07? Could be used after, but with the polishing oils in ult. polish, it may be redundant. Seal it all with Gold Class Carnauba plus for looks, Ultimate Wax or NXT 2.0 for durability.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is this paint saveable ? 2000 Miata red hardtop . .

                              Just as a update and a big for number #7...It has been about a year and the paint has not returned to that dry out look. Very good #7.

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