Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

[Marc08EX]

I cleaned my wife's car last week using UWWA and followed it up with UQW. The car got dusty very quickly and I think it was because of UQW. I'm sure we all share the same goal of keeping the car clean as much as possible. Using UWWA every week can get expensive IMO. I have a lot of UQD/M135 and I don't want that to go to waste. My question is how long is the longest time you'll wait until you're not comfortable using UQD (or any quick detailer for that matter) to dust off the car. Here's how my wife's paint looks like after a week:

Hood:


Close-up:


Cleaned a spot:


In this situation, do you think using UQD or any QD is still safe? Or do I need to use UWWA because on how dirty the car is or how long it has been since I washed the car.

THANKS!

[Murr1525]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

I think it would need the UWWA or the Rinseless Wash in the Pro Line.

Its really the dirt that matters, not the length of time.

[ethereal45]

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Gut feeling says that's a little more dirt than a quick detailer is designed to handle.

[rst08tierney]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

Hit that with a car duster using zero pressure followed up by a qd and you're golden

[Ryan Dodd]

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I live on a dirt road and get this kind of dust after maybe two trips over it. I have to do a full wash like every 3 days to keep it clean. I think UQD could work if you tried it, but UWWA almost certainly will work. As rst08 said, you could use a duster, but make sure it is of high quality or it might scratch your paint.

[STRIFE]

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I'm not sure i would use "time" as a factor in whether I'd use UWWA or UQD.
As mentioned & since you live in a rather dry part of the world, I would try the California duster, then UQD or UWWA?

I think you could use UQD on that dust, but you would likely use way more UQD/M135 and a few more MFs...I recall once I used about 15-20 MFs and almost half a bottle of UQD on my G35.
Like you, I have a lotsa UQD/2 gallons M135, a gallon of LT, 7 bottles of UWWA...and to boot, i have 2 gallons of ONR

If money was a consideration, I would use ONR. If money wasn't....I'd use UWWA in a heartbeat.
Last week I used ONR at 1oz/32oz of water in a spray bottle on my G35....used about 12 MFs and pretty much the entire bottle of ONR solution, the G looked great.

[Michael Stoops]

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UWWA over QD on that amount of dirt every time. D114 Rinse Free Express Wash is an excellent choice as well.

We'll refrain from commenting on the finger swipe through all that dirt, though

[ethereal45]

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Is it really safe to rub those big california dusters over paint without any lubrication? Or are you supposed to spray something then use them?

[Marc08EX]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

Thanks for your input everyone! UWWA or RFEW it is.

UWWA over QD on that amount of dirt every time. D114 Rinse Free Express Wash is an excellent choice as well.

We'll refrain from commenting on the finger swipe through all that dirt, though

LOL I knew someone was going to comment about the finger swipe. I hope I didn't make you cringe Mike. Don't worry I don't do it all the time.

Is it really safe to rub those big california dusters over paint without any lubrication? Or are you supposed to spray something then use them?

I'm curious as well.

[Murr1525]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

Is it really safe to rub those big california dusters over paint without any lubrication? Or are you supposed to spray something then use them?

Not supposed to rub them... more like suspend them over the surface.

[STRIFE]

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Read up about the Cali Duster on AG, think it would be great in Cali or Arizona weather....not so good in Vancouver weather

http://www.autogeek.net/caldus.html

on a side note....UWWA is pretty cheap at ADS 6 bottles for $62.94 (10.49 a bottle)

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

Is it really safe to rub those big california dusters over paint without any lubrication? Or are you supposed to spray something then use them?

As with anything, there are limits to what you can remove with them. The mistake most people make with these is that they try to make the finish completely clean and that usually means putting some pressure on them and, in really improper use cases, almost scrubbing with them. If you use them to pull up the majority of dust, which they actually do quite well, and then follow with a quick detailer to remove the balance, you shouldn't have any issues.

In a nutshell:

Hit that with a car duster using zero pressure followed up by a qd and you're golden

But if you're really unsure, if you really think there's too much surface dust/dirt, then it's best to err on the side of caution and either fully wash, or use UWWA. Of course, UWWA has it's limits, too, so if you think the surface is too dirty for that product, it's time to give it a full wash. This could happen in cases of heavy road salt or mud where a strong blast from a hose is needed to remove the bulk of that material. Just as you wouldn't simply dunk a wash mitt in a bucket of soapy water and start wiping a dry, but mud caked car - you'd spray it down first with a hose or pressure washer.

[Marc08EX]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

If you guys say that the dust of the pictures I posted were too much for UQD, then what about these pictures?





Source:

To me, the car where in Mike Pennington is using UQD on also has heavy dust.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

That particular car had just been sitting outside for the day on the expansive rear patio of the Portola Hotel in Monterey, CA. It really wasn't all that dusty where as the image you posted looked like a vehicle covered in typical Phoenix area blown sand. Big difference.

You and I have discussed this topic before and I know you're a bit leery of using QD sprays in general. Hopefully next time you're able to make it to a TNOG we can look at a few different cars and make some determinations about what is safe to QD, when to step up to UWWA, and when to pull out the hose and bucket.

[davey g-force]

Re: Would You Use UWWA or UQD On This?

Marc, it's a bit hard to tell, but I don't think the car Mike Pennington was working on is quite as dusty as yours.

To go back to your OP, I personally think that car is too dirty for a QD. And even though I'm a big fan of California Car Dusters (where appropriate), I think it's also too dirty to dust it with a duster first. Maybe I'm just too cautious...