recomend some pads

[Lunarwolf]

im banging my head. im new to the world of buffing with a machine. i received a girots garage 6 inch for a gift a few months back .. now its getting warmer I want to stop doing my car by hand and use this thing. i been a huge fan of megs products.what kind of application pad would i need for nxt?

and is there one to take the wax off too? if so what pad would i need for that as well.

what about the scratch x compound?



Any help would be appreciated

[Murr1525]

Re: recomend some pads

If your car is in good shape, you can just use the Sure Buff 2.0 foam pads.

You would want the polishing pads for applying paint cleaners, and the finishing pad for applying waxes. If you want to remove wax by machine, you would want to get a cutting pad and some MF bonetts to put over it.

If you car is in rougher shape, or a harder paint to work on, you may want to look at the MF pad system, but that is not something I have used.

As far as products, there are a few you could look at. You would probably want a mild cleaner and a stronger cleaner. For a mild cleaner, #205 is very good, though Ult. Polish is also good and perhaps easier to find. For the stronger cleaner, you would want Ult. Compound.

Again, if you had to use the MF system, I am not as familiar with those products.

[Marc08EX]

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Pad selection is indeed very confusing when you first start out. Out of all the pads I've tried and used, I only like 2 brands. Meguiar's and Lake Country. They make great and durable pads. Since you're starting out, I will recommend getting the W8207 Softbuff 2.0 polishing pads and W9207 Softbuff 2.0 finishing pads. They work great, last a long time and are machine washable. It's also less confusing because LC has so many different lines and density. I think it's overkill.

Meguiar's has been using the W8207 polishing pad with Ultimate Compound on most of the cars they work on during their Saturday classes. That combo works wonders. Ultimate Polish and any wax will work great with the W9207 finishing pad.

[Lunarwolf]

Re: recomend some pads

Pad selection is indeed very confusing when you first start out. Out of all the pads I've tried and used, I only like 2 brands. Meguiar's and Lake Country. They make great and durable pads. Since you're starting out, I will recommend getting the W8207 Softbuff 2.0 polishing pads and W9207 Softbuff 2.0 finishing pads. They work great, last a long time and are machine washable. It's also less confusing because LC has so many different lines and density. I think it's overkill.

Meguiar's has been using the W8207 polishing pad with Ultimate Compound on most of the cars they work on during their Saturday classes. That combo works wonders. Ultimate Polish and any wax will work great with the W9207 finishing pad.

lol yeah im rubing my head i just did my car by hand and it rots.. so the polish pad to apply the wax and the finishing pad to remove? and the w8207 for say the scratch x compund? My paint is is very decent condition. I faithfully waxed it since i bought the car in 06. if i can get the basics down i can get this going. i do appreciate all the input. its relaxing my poor head lol

[Marc08EX]

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lol yeah im rubing my head i just did my car by hand and it rots.. so the polish pad to apply the wax and the finishing pad to remove? and the w8207 for say the scratch x compund? My paint is is very decent condition. I faithfully waxed it since i bought the car in 06. if i can get the basics down i can get this going. i do appreciate all the input. its relaxing my poor head lol

Both the W8207 polishing pad and the W9207 finishing pad are used to apply the compounds, polishes or waxes. The difference between the two is the density of each pad. The polishing pad is more coarse than the finishing pad - meaning the polishing pad provides more mechanical cutting ability than a finishing pad. All else being equal (ceteris paribus?), the polishing pad will remove more defects than a finishing pad.

Usually, strong cleaner polishes such as Scratch X or Ultimate Compound are used with the polishing pad. A finishing polish such as Ultimate Polish will be used on the finishing pad afterwards because the main goal of this step is to refine the corrected finish. After polishing and when it's time to apply the wax, the finishing pad will be the best choice to use. This is because you don't want to instill any more scratches since you already polished your paint to perfection.

Now if you only have time to do 1 polishing step with whatever product you choose, the best pad to use is a polishing pad. Waxes are always used with the finishing pad.

Confusing enough? We all totally understand. That's what we're here for.

Here are some great articles that will help you out on how to use your polisher, how to pick the proper pads and what products you need to use:
D/A Buffing 101: An Introduction to the G110v2 (and-similar)
Product Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher

Hope this helps!

[Lunarwolf]

Re: recomend some pads

Both the W8207 polishing pad and the W9207 finishing pad are used to apply the compounds, polishes or waxes. The difference between the two is the density of each pad. The polishing pad is more coarse than the finishing pad - meaning the polishing pad provides more mechanical cutting ability than a finishing pad. All else being equal (ceteris paribus?), the polishing pad will remove more defects than a finishing pad.

Usually, strong cleaner polishes such as Scratch X or Ultimate Compound are used with the polishing pad. A finishing polish such as Ultimate Polish will be used on the finishing pad afterwards because the main goal of this step is to refine the corrected finish. After polishing and when it's time to apply the wax, the finishing pad will be the best choice to use. This is because you don't want to instill any more scratches since you already polished your paint to perfection.

Now if you only have time to do 1 polishing step with whatever product you choose, the best pad to use is a polishing pad. Waxes are always used with the finishing pad.

Confusing enough? We all totally understand. That's what we're here for.

Here are some great articles that will help you out on how to use your polisher, how to pick the proper pads and what products you need to use:
D/A Buffing 101: An Introduction to the G110v2 (and-similar)
Product Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher

Hope this helps!

there arnt really any pads to remove the wax/polish compound etc? Need to remove it by hand?

[Marc08EX]

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there arnt really any pads to remove the wax/polish compound etc? Need to remove it by hand?

There's a way. It's called a microfiber bonnet. I hate using it though that's why I'm not recommending it.

[Lunarwolf]

Re: recomend some pads

There's a way. It's called a microfiber bonnet. I hate using it though that's why I'm not recommending it.

ahhh ok i seen those on griots garage site. so not recomended. so stick with the hand to remove the wax and such gotcha! they can cause scratching and swirls?

[Marc08EX]

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ahhh ok i seen those on griots garage site. so not recomended. so stick with the hand to remove the wax and such gotcha! they can cause scratching and swirls?

I'm not saying don't try it. By all means please go ahead and try it. If you like it then use that technique. I just like using a plush MF towel to remove wax residue because I have control and I like to take my time in removing the wax. It's not hard to do it anyway. So long as the bonnet is clean and free of contaminants, it shouldn't cause any swirls or scratches.

[Lunarwolf]

Re: recomend some pads

I'm not saying don't try it. By all means please go ahead and try it. If you like it then use that technique. I just like using a plush MF towel to remove wax residue because I have control and I like to take my time in removing the wax. It's not hard to do it anyway. So long as the bonnet is clean and free of contaminants, it shouldn't cause any swirls or scratches.

cool! Thank you for your Input. defiantly helped me on my quest to find the pads i need. im not banging my head anymore! now will the application pads work well with a surface scratched truck? using the compound? my dad decided to go in the woods with his truck. mostly all just scuffs and such.

[Marc08EX]

Re: recomend some pads

cool! Thank you for your Input. defiantly helped me on my quest to find the pads i need. im not banging my head anymore! now will the application pads work well with a surface scratched truck? using the compound? my dad decided to go in the woods with his truck. mostly all just scuffs and such.

Glad to help! Any more questions please feel free to ask.

When you say application pads, do you mean the foam applicator pads or the softbuff foam pads? They will both work for your trunk to polish out those scratches. Just don't expect too much if the scratches are too deep (4x4'ing in the woods).

[Murr1525]

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Yes, may be best to show/explain more about the condition of your truck... all suggestions are general cases/

[FX4619]

It depends on the scratches. I tried to get out some scratches the other day with ultimate compound, yellow polishing pad, and Meg's DA polisher. Needless to say it didn't help. There are more aggressive products in the professional line, but using the least aggressive method first is good. If that doesn't work then look at your technique. If you think you're doing it right and still no results, then move up on a more aggressive product like M02 or M105 with your yellow pad.

There is a relatively new system out called the DA MF correction system. This system is for severe defects but is easy to use. I may need this for my wife's vehicle but it's pricey, $100 for the products and pads.

[Lunarwolf]

Re: recomend some pads

It depends on the scratches. I tried to get out some scratches the other day with ultimate compound, yellow polishing pad, and Meg's DA polisher. Needless to say it didn't help. There are more aggressive products in the professional line, but using the least aggressive method first is good. If that doesn't work then look at your technique. If you think you're doing it right and still no results, then move up on a more aggressive product like M02 or M105 with your yellow pad.

There is a relatively new system out called the DA MF correction system. This system is for severe defects but is easy to use. I may need this for my wife's vehicle but it's pricey, $100 for the products and pads.

now the last question lol. my buffer is a random orbital 6 inch. will the 6.5 pads work on it no problem?

[Marc08EX]

Re: recomend some pads

now the last question lol. my buffer is a random orbital 6 inch. will the 6.5 pads work on it no problem?

You can use any sized foam pads you want - 3", 4", 5.5", or 6.5" You just need the proper sized backing plate to accommodate the foam pad you're using. In your case, yes the 6.5" pad will fit the 6" backing plate just fine. I think the backing plate slightly goes beyond the velcro region but it doesn't go beyond the foam pad itself. Just be careful when removing the foam pad from the GG backing plate because the attachment is really strong.

I myself like using Meguiar's backing plates to Meguiar's pads. If you're planning to get the W8207/9207 Softbuff 2.0 pads, I would highly suggest getting the W68DA backing plate.

For more information on backing plates, please read the great article written by Mike Stoops:
Backing Plates - More Than Just A Way To Stick A Pad To A Buffer