Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

[timberland]

I'm a ol' car nut and very picky about my toys...black truck, black Jeep, black and burgundy boat and burgundy truck ... For years I've used a PC as an applicator and Waxcoa 10" orbital with microfiber ( see I told ya I was old, ) to remove product. I clay bar twice a year on the vehicles, use cleaner after our Mi winter, then #7 Glaze and final two coats of #26 Yellow wax. Seems like the wax doesn't last as long as it use too. I still buy it by the gallon. I was thinking of this "new" Ultimate wax..... Whats the good bad and ugly of this product vs what I have used for 30 years.?? No paste stuff for me.

This is my "cleaning" shelf in my man cave.

[Mark58]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Welcome to MOL!
i used Ultimate wax on black car and it looks great. By now you know that most of the work is in the prep.

[greg0303]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Welcome to Meguiar's Online.


M26 High Tech Yellow Wax - it's a hybrid wax, a mix of natural and synthetic ingredients.
Ultimate Wax - fully synthetic, Meguiar's newest and longest lasting wax/ sealant.

Both waxes are finishing waxes, no cleaning ability, no abrasives.

The key for long lasting protection is paint surface preparation: full wash, claying and pre-wax cleaner. Clay bars remove bonded contaminants, which sit on top of paint and car wash can't remove, ensuring stronger bonding between paint and wax. Pre-wax cleaner will improve paint appearance which wax/ sealant locks after.

M26 is a great choice if there's a hesitation between natural (carnauba based) and synthetic (polymer based) wax usage. Ultimate Wax will definitely last much longer time than M26 in identical environment. Furtermore synthetic waxes/ sealants wash off less after each car wash due to stronger bonding.

You could also use Ultimate Quik Wax after car washes as protection booster.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Welcome to MOL - nice collection of goodies on the shelf!

So M26 versus Ultimate Wax then.

Well, M26 you know pretty well after so much time - easy on, easy off, nice banana scent, provides a nice carnauba glow to dark paints, but being a carnauba product it's not the longest wax in the world (such is the fate of carnauba waxes).

Ultimate Wax is our latest and greatest 100% synthetic polymer sealant - also easy on and off, but you'll find in many cases you'll get a better result if you apply it to one panel at a time and remove after no more than to 3 to 5 minutes. It is now our longest lasting, best protecting wax/sealant (being 100% synthetic there is no real, natural wax in it). The appearance it yields is going to be a bit different than that of M26, maybe a bit crisper and sharper reflections, and probably brighter as well (such is the nature of synthetics). But it will dramatically outlast M26 or other carnaubas, and it will bead water like crazy.

[waterbeads]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Welcome to MOL - nice collection of goodies on the shelf!

So M26 versus Ultimate Wax then.

Well, M26 you know pretty well after so much time - easy on, easy off, nice banana scent, provides a nice carnauba glow to dark paints, but being a carnauba product it's not the longest wax in the world (such is the fate of carnauba waxes).

Ultimate Wax is our latest and greatest 100% synthetic polymer sealant - also easy on and off, but you'll find in many cases you'll get a better result if you apply it to one panel at a time and remove after no more than to 3 to 5 minutes. It is now our longest lasting, best protecting wax/sealant (being 100% synthetic there is no real, natural wax in it). The appearance it yields is going to be a bit different than that of M26, maybe a bit crisper and sharper reflections, and probably brighter as well (such is the nature of synthetics). But it will dramatically outlast M26 or other carnaubas, and it will bead water like crazy.

i wanted to ask what will be the effect on its bonding if i apply 1 coat of ultimate paste wax and after 12 hours apply a coat of #26 yellow wax...i want protection as well as depth...according to my assumption, the UPW with its strong bonding properties will give me protection and shine and the #26 will give me depth...

and as the paint is in good condition, ill just clay the car first and then apply the 2 coats of wax over a period of 12 hours...suggestions please

[ffboy]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Applying a carnauba wax (gold class, deep crystal, or M26) is a personal thing. The effect might be that M26 will wear out in time and leave the Ultimate Wax coat underneath. M26 will be gone sooner, and as it wears out, will leave the Ultimate Wax underneath to do the protecting. But ultimately, the overall protective coat of wax can last longer. Most of us want to try different combinations, nothing wrong with that, so go ahead and clay the car, apply 2 coats (12 hr intervals) of ultimate wax then 1 coat of M26, it should be more than enough protection.

[drumdan]

Welcome to MOL - nice collection of goodies on the shelf!

So M26 versus Ultimate Wax then.

Well, M26 you know pretty well after so much time - easy on, easy off, nice banana scent, provides a nice carnauba glow to dark paints, but being a carnauba product it's not the longest wax in the world (such is the fate of carnauba waxes).

Ultimate Wax is our latest and greatest 100% synthetic polymer sealant - also easy on and off, but you'll find in many cases you'll get a better result if you apply it to one panel at a time and remove after no more than to 3 to 5 minutes. It is now our longest lasting, best protecting wax/sealant (being 100% synthetic there is no real, natural wax in it). The appearance it yields is going to be a bit different than that of M26, maybe a bit crisper and sharper reflections, and probably brighter as well (such is the nature of synthetics). But it will dramatically outlast M26 or other carnaubas, and it will bead water like crazy.

i wanted to ask what will be the effect on its bonding if i apply 1 coat of ultimate paste wax and after 12 hours apply a coat of #26 yellow wax...i want protection as well as depth...according to my assumption, the UPW with its strong bonding properties will give me protection and shine and the #26 will give me depth...

and as the paint is in good condition, ill just clay the car first and then apply the 2 coats of wax over a period of 12 hours...suggestions please

#26 is my favorite Megs "topper" for Ultimate Wax.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

i wanted to ask what will be the effect on its bonding if i apply 1 coat of ultimate paste wax and after 12 hours apply a coat of #26 yellow wax...i want protection as well as depth...according to my assumption, the UPW with its strong bonding properties will give me protection and shine and the #26 will give me depth...

and as the paint is in good condition, ill just clay the car first and then apply the 2 coats of wax over a period of 12 hours...suggestions please

As ffboy points out, this is fairly common practice but it's also a very personal choice. While you don't need to apply a carnauba wax over a synthetic, some people like to as they perceive a visual difference that is more appealing to their eye. Others, meanwhile, can't see the difference so they don't bother doing it. If you chose to do this, however, giving the synthetic at least 12 hours, as you stated, is a good idea in order to allow the polymers to fully cross link and bond. Otherwise, there should be no issues applying a carnauba on top of a synthetic.

[waterbeads]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

As ffboy points out, this is fairly common practice but it's also a very personal choice. While you don't need to apply a carnauba wax over a synthetic, some people like to as they perceive a visual difference that is more appealing to their eye. Others, meanwhile, can't see the difference so they don't bother doing it. If you chose to do this, however, giving the synthetic at least 12 hours, as you stated, is a good idea in order to allow the polymers to fully cross link and bond. Otherwise, there should be no issues applying a carnauba on top of a synthetic.

i also wanted to ask how do we apply UPW..as in we should make thin layer and then after how long should wipe it..should i let it dry for around 20 min or should i go for panel by panel with 2-3 min before wiping each panel...same question for the #26??? some one told me that both waxes are to be used panel by panel....please advice

[waterbeads]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

i think i found the answer to it..thanx anyways everyone for the suggestions
Applying paste wax via G110v2 or other D/A
but in the above mentioned post its if we are using a machine polisher...i only use hands..so what will be the procedure for that..let it dry to a haze or give it just 2-3 min and then to the next panel...

[davey g-force]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

You would apply ULW to a panel at a time and wipe off after a few minutes.

You would let UPW, M26 and any other Megs waxes dry to a haze before removing.

[sjb89]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

Hi Guys, I became very interested in this thread, so today i bought Meguiars # 26 Hi-Tech yellow wax and Meguiars ULTIMATE paste wax. I applied both of these waxes to P.P.G. Concept solid red ,(no clearcoat) in perfect pre-wax condition. This paint is 1 year old, never out of the shop yet, highly color sanded , compounded , polished, glazed, and sealed . I did a test panel using both of these products separated by masking tape. When applying, The Ultimate paste wax went on smooth and clear. When applying the Hi-Tech Yellow wax , I noticed the applicator had "RED" paint on it . So, i looked up # 26, which is said to contain "NO" abrasives. After removing both products, the side with # 26 Hi - Tech Yellow wax seemed smeary and not as " wet looking " Michael had mentioned previously in this thread that his favorite is :Meguiars Ultimate wax topped with # 26 Hi-Tech yellow wax. My questions are ,1 : Why is there paint coming off on the applicator when using # 26 if it contains no abrasives ??.. And 2 : If i apply Meguiars Ultimate wax first, then followed by #26 Meguiars Hi - tech yellow wax , will the #26 actually be removing the coat of ultimate wax . Thanks.

[C8N]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

What kind of applicator were you using?
If you allow enough curing time, #26 should not remove uw.

[sjb89]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

I used a microfiber and also a foam applicator. Thanks

[C8N]

Re: Yellow wax vs Ultimate Wax?

I highly doubt it was the wax that took off paint. I would guess it was the combination of your cars paint systm and the applicator that is the culprit. Microfiber given enough pressure will have some cut. To be sure, mimic the procedure with a qd instead and see if there is any paint transfer.