Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+Wax?

[a6l3i]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

If by chance you are buying the Smooth Surface Clay kit in a box, it comes with a bottle of Quik Detailer for use as a clay lube. Folks recommended to me not to use Ultimate Quik Detailer as a clay lube as it was too slick to be the most effective.

Then perhaps the Smooth Surface Clay kit in a box is not available in Germany.

Ultimate Quik Detailer is an amazing product for routine maintenance.

- Interesting reason! what's Meguiars' suggestion in this issue?
- Here in Germany, Clay kit could be found and costs 30 EUR (cheaper than to separate clay + SSM+ QD).

[Murr1525]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

Think of it this way... besides being more expensive than QD, the UQD also leaves a polymer coating behind. So you are going to spray the dirt you are trying to remove with a slick polymer, then try to remove it.

[a6l3i]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

Interesting point!

[a6l3i]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

I would not buy both SwirlX and Ult. Polish.... very similar products.

The A12 is not a bad product, just milder. You could also check for #6, or #66.

I found these items in Germany with suitable prices. Since, i'm not sour bout finding them in such low prices again, i decide to buy a set of products to put in garage in one order.

SwirlX
UC
Ult. Polish Paste

ColorX
A12- Cleaner Wax paste

Ult. Paste Wax
M26- Hi-Tech Yellow wax

As i remember, it's better to start with less aggressive products for removing swirls. So, if they were fine swirls, the Ult. polish or ColorX will remove them and there wouldn't be any need to SwirlX. But if they become some more, but not deep enough to use UC, shouldn't we use SwirlX? or we can UC with lighter pressure?

[Murr1525]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

Little confused. I think you mean you ordered those 7 products. Ult. Polish is a liquid though, so not sure on what you may have ordered.

Milder is better, but sometimes it gets taken to extremes, when it isnt that difficult, esp working by hand. On most paints, ColorX, SwirlX, Ult. Polish are all going to do the same by hand at removing defects. If you have some swirls, etc, do a test spot by hand with a mild product, if nothing , use UC. Then follow up with a mild product if needed.

By machine, the differences can show up more, and a machine, plus the different pads, adds some agressiveness.

[a6l3i]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

Little confused. I think you mean you ordered those 7 products. Ult. Polish is a liquid though, so not sure on what you may have ordered.

- I didn't order them, just found in a online store that offer them just in limit cases.
- you right, that's Ult. Polish.

Milder is better, but sometimes it gets taken to extremes, when it isnt that difficult, esp working by hand. On most paints, ColorX, SwirlX, Ult. Polish are all going to do the same by hand at removing defects. If you have some swirls, etc, do a test spot by hand with a mild product, if nothing , use UC. Then follow up with a mild product if needed.

By machine, the differences can show up more, and a machine, plus the different pads, adds some agressiveness.

I don't decide to buy DA at the moment. but everyday i'm thinking about it I'm sour would purchase it in near future.
Hence, for swirls i will use ColorX or UC, and abandon from SwirlX.

Beside this, i need a polish for non-coated metals (aluminum, chrome, etc.). which one is better: NXT All Metal Polish or Hot Rims All Metal Polish? i didn't found their differences!

[Murr1525]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

All of the products we are discussing are hand or DA safe, so you wont waste money there.

Nxt was discontinued, so dont know if you will find it. Nxt is milder, All Metal is stronger, both are good. If the metal is in good shape, UC will work as well.

Actually, I think I have a pic...

[a6l3i]

Re: Black metallic 1st wash: Clay/ColorX/Wax or Clay/cleaner polish+ pure polish/Wax+

Good job
it seems the Meg's Hot Rims All Metal Polish is not offered in Europe yet. So, i bought NXT all metal polish.