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  • Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

    Now that my tire dressing test is about done, I'm moving on to a long-term evaluation of waxes/sealants. I'm a big fan of NXT 2.0 Liquid Wax, primarily because of its ease of application and removal. I wax my car often enough that durability isn't really a factor for me - I average 3-4 weeks between waxes, and use UW&W and D156 religiously in between waxing. That said, I'm doing the occasional detail for friends and family, and they tend to go several months between wax applications, so I've been looking for a product that has excellent longevity. I've heard lots of good things about Collinite 845 having fantastic durability, so I wanted to give that a try. To round out the product eval, I posted a poll a couple of days ago asking interested MOL members to vote for a third sealant to test from what I had on hand. Ultimate Liquid Wax won by a large margin.

    My plan for this evaluation was to divide my trunk lids into thirds and apply two coats of each product. My car has less than 3,000 miles on it and has been maintained quite well since I bought it, so the paint is in good shape. I started by washing the car with Hyper Wash, then giving the trunk lid a good wipedown with APC+, followed by Body Solvent. The trunk lid was clayed and polished with Ultimate Polish a couple of months ago, but I clayed it again anyway to ensure a clean surface.

    With the surface prep complete, I used some Meg's masking tape to roughly divide the trunk lid into three sections. I then applied the first coat of each product by hand, using a separate foam applicator (Red LC CCS) for each product to avoid cross-contamination. For the ULW, I removed the excess sealant after about five minutes, and experienced no streaking (it would seem that I'm better at applying ULW by hand than with the G110). I allowed both the NXT and 845 to dry for about an hour before removal. I used Supreme Shine MF towels to remove the excess for all three products.

    After roughly seven hours of cure time, I gave the trunk a quick wipe with M135 to remove accumulated dust (my car is outside 24/7), then applied a second coat of each product, again using separate applicators for each. As before, the ULW was removed after five minutes, again with no streaking, while the NXT and 845 were allowed to dry for an hour before buffing.

    A couple of notes on application: ULW was the easiest product to apply - it really does go on like butter. The 845 was a whole different experience. It's a very watery product, and a little goes a long way. If you thought ULW needed to be applied thin, think again! I dabbed my applicator with three tiny drops of 845 (each perhaps 5mm wide), and still ended up with a very thick coat that was a bit difficult to remove. I could easily have used that small amount to cover the entire trunk lid, and then some. The nice thing about 845 is that it's very easy to tell where you have and haven't applied it, even on a gray car like mine.

    Also, for those of you who saw my original thread about this test, you're probably wondering why I used NXT when I said that I was going to use M21. I completely forgot until I started typing up this post. Oh, well. M21 and NXT are supposed to be pretty much identical, so no big deal.

    As for how this test will proceed: I'll be washing my car as usual (every 5-7 days). I want to avoid using any products that would boost or otherwise affect the longevity of the three waxes, so I'll be washing with Hyper Wash, and I'll be forgoing the usual post-wash D156 wipe down, at least for the trunk. I'll periodically take pictures of the trunk, to include water beading shots, and post those in this thread. I'll keep this up for as long as needed. Here's the thing, though - even after APC+ and BS, the trunk was still beading water. I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to know when the waxes are disappearing. I guess I'll play that one by ear.

    Anyway, here are a few pictures from the start of the project. I don't have an SLR, nor am I much of a photographer, so I apologize in advance for the photos not being that great. It was quite difficult to see a the tape lines after I wiped off the excess product, let alone get the camera to pick them up. As you'll see, though, all three products look great.











    I didn't get any shots of the trunk after wiping off the excess from the second coat, as it was dark by that point. I doubt that it would have looked significantly different.

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    Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

    NXT 2.0 definitely darkens it, doesn't it?
    2011 Ford Mustang GT Cali Special
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    • #3
      Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

      It's funny, initially, I thought that ULW darkened it, whereas NXT was a brighter shine. You're absolutely right, though - when I was looking at the two side by side, the NXT was noticeably darker.

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      • #4
        Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

        Can you please rank the 3 contenders in terms of shine? I can't wait to see the results of this. Thanks for taking time to do this long term comparison.
        2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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        • #5
          Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

          Marc - I'll take another look tomorrow, but with my car's color, it's pretty difficult to objectively gauge shine.

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          • #6
            Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

            Thank you for this test. I eagerly await the results

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            • #7
              Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

              Took a few more pictures today. In the shade, the tape line is pretty easy to see, but in direct sun, you have to be at exactly the right angle, and even then, it's really difficult to make out.







              As for shine, it's a toss-up. I think the ULW has slightly more gloss than the other two, but even that's a bit of a stretch. As for color, ULW is the brightest, followed by NXT, then 845, but that's only noticeable in the shade.

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              • #8
                Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                Great test and write up once again.

                I am keen to follow this and see your results...
                Originally posted by Blueline
                I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                • #9
                  Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                  So two weeks since your last post here - how are things looking now? What's the weather been like? How many times have you washed the car?
                  Michael Stoops
                  Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                  Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                    The weather here has been miserable for the last two weekends - heavy rain followed by more heavy rain. I've washed the car twice since applying the waxes, using Hyper Wash (1oz/5gal). The trunk lid still looks great and still feels as though there is wax on it - you can feel a bit of a difference between where wax was applied and where the trunk was taped into thirds.

                    Crappy iPhone pic from a week ago:

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                    • #11
                      Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                      The beading looks quite consistent across all three thirds of the trunk lid..
                      Originally posted by Blueline
                      I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                        i think Ultimate Wax 'did' darken your car color a bit...which is really nice for a medium colored car!
                        do give us the update bout the longevity..might change to Ultimate Wax after this..
                        "If a sealant give you HD effect, a carnauba will give you the 3D effect"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                          Thanks for the the detailed work; IMHO the visual differences are non-exsistent. I have also done similiar tests and could never see any difference nor could any of my friends.

                          I think that if there truely were any differences in shine, beading, durabilty ect, Meguiars would have already published the results. Meguiars has the best and largest staff and all the technology available; the questions to ask yourself is "why doesnt Meguiars published their own controlled studies?" I think its because significant visual differences DONT exist.

                          Sofaking

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                          • #14
                            Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                            Originally posted by SofaKing View Post
                            the questions to ask yourself is "why doesnt Meguiars published their own controlled studies?" I think its because significant visual differences DONT exist.
                            The last thing a sprinter is thinking about during a race is the guy next to him. The focus is on the finish line. IMO.
                            Last edited by Jossy92; Oct 18, 2011, 02:14 PM. Reason: after thoughts
                            Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                            by John Wooden

                            '88 Honda

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                            • #15
                              Re: Long Term Testing - Ult. Wax, NXT 2.0, and Collinite 845

                              ^^ Great analogy..
                              Originally posted by Blueline
                              I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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