M105 Wont wipeoff Fiberglass NEED TO KNOW ASAP

[SunnyD]

i started doing the big rig i posted about before i have a problem fiberglass sides i did a small section with 105 went to wipe and it will only wipe if i apply alot of pressure and use final inspection at the same time why is this ?

[jaymz]

Re: M105 Wont wipeoff Fiberglass NEED TO KNOW ASAP

Yup, that's #105 all right! That stuff has a bit of a learning curve. Pad must be properly "primed," vehicle out of the sun. Spritzing the paint with H2O when #105 begins to flash will extend work time. Read up on "Kevin Brown method" or try Ultimate Compound; much more forgiving.

Jim

[SunnyD]

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i sprayed some final inspection on the pad the 105 is wet it still sticks to the paint like crazy i tried spraying final inspection on the paint to help wipe off it dose but it still takes alot of effort maybe its the single stage paint on fiberglass thats the problem

[Hemin8r]

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Put a couple of pea size drops of 105 on your pad and go over the area where the 105 is difficult to remove. Work the area until you start seeing it disappear and then wipe off. That should make it easier to remove.

[wifpd4]

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SunnyD,

If you had a chance to read those links you were sent, I think what you are seeing is single stage paint drawing the moisture out of M105.

As Hemin8r and jaymz have indicated, proper pad priming and also "like removes like" will help you with your difficulty with this first semi tractor.

Some semis sit outdoors all the time or are on the road constantly. They can't make any money sitting in a garage. If they have never received the tender loving care you are trying to give them, the paint will be dry as a bone.

Although I have no experience with your difficulty, I think reading up on single stage paint will give a good start on the 24 remaining vehicles you have left to do. Nick and others have given you some good advice already.

[Tuck91]

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SunnyD,

If you had a chance to read those links you were sent, I think what you are seeing is single stage paint drawing the moisture out of M105.

As Hemin8r and jaymz have indicated, proper pad priming and also "like removes like" will help you with your difficulty with this first semi tractor.

Some semis sit outdoors all the time or are on the road constantly. They can't make any money sitting in a garage. If they have never received the tender loving care you are trying to give them, the paint will be dry as a bone.

Although I have no experience with your difficulty, I think reading up on single stage paint will give a good start on the 24 remaining vehicles you have left to do. Nick and others have given you some good advice already.

If I were him I would be using some M83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish.

Its an old school product that never gets talked about anymore but it cuts well, has a very nice buffing cycle, and leaves single stage paint rich looking.

Its an aggressive cleaner/polish and not a compound but you may not even have to follow up with its less aggressive twin M80 Speed Glaze.

After all, this is assuming the M83 is strong enough, but that depends too on your pad, tool, technique, etc.

[rst08tierney]

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sunny D, remember the test spot, it will save head aches

[tcy006]

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If it's single stage paint that just needs 'shined up' why not use Color X? I had a Ranger with Red SS paint and Color X was perfect for that.

[wifpd4]

Re: M105 Wont wipeoff Fiberglass NEED TO KNOW ASAP

If I were him I would be using some M83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish.Its an old school product that never gets talked about anymore but it cuts well, has a very nice buffing cycle, and leaves single stage paint rich looking.Its an aggressive cleaner/polish and not a compound but you may not even have to follow up with its less aggressive twin M80 Speed Glaze.After all, this is assuming the M83 is strong enough, but that depends too on your pad, tool, technique, etc.

Thanks Nick, oddly enough I was holding a bottle of M83 today in an auto supply store wondering if I should get a bottle to go with an M80 I already have.

[SunnyD]

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I ended up using uc did the whole truck myself expect the roof I had help on that

[Poki]

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After struggling with the single stage paint on my 1996 motor home I tried M80. The single stage paint came out fantastic! Deep gloss. It was dry as a bone and the info. here on the forum saved it!!

[THE BIG BUFFER]

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M80 and M83 are defininitely the way to go with single stage paint. Easy to use and perfect results!!!

Red SS paint 1968 GTO. Paint was heavily oxidized!

[Andrew C.]

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Glad you got it off. Remember what was said above- "Like removes like"

What level of correction are you looking for? Are you trying to remove any swirls or primarily just restore the color of the paint?

If you are mainly looking to just restore color to the SS paint, go ahead and use M80. It is incredibly rich in oils and really works well on SS paints. It will remove a good amount of swirls and will finish off LSP ready.

If you are looking to get better defect removal, go ahead and do what Nick said of using M83 followed by M80.


It all depends on what you are looking to get done.

[Michael Stoops]

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In our recent response to your other thread about this M105 issue we had the feeling it was on one of these trucks. Dry paint is not M105s best friend. Remember, M105 was originally developed for use on fresh paint as a fast and efficient means of removing sanding marks via rotary buffer. That doesn't mean you can't use it elsewhere, but it does mean that in some situations M105 is not going to be the right product. Dry paint is at the top of list as it will quickly pull the lubricating moisture out of M105 and leave you with a sticky mess. We've mentioned many, many times the Ferrari 360 we worked on a couple of years back where M105 was probably one of the worst choices of product - it wasn't just difficult to use on this car, it was down right impossible. M80 Speed Glaze, with it's concentration of polishing oils and light cutting ability did wonders for that Ferrari, far better than anything we could have gotten with M105 on that particular paint. Sounds like on these trucks you've got a similar situation, and UC is going to be much more forgiving all around here.

[SunnyD]

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The other thread is a problem I got today on a Infiniti not the trucks