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    Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

    I've got a detail set up for next month...beautiful black 2010 Camaro SS. It is badly swirled...but they are VERY light..just everywhere (owner thinks it is from using a duster at car shows since he never really drives it...i think he's right).

    Here is the thing..it is a reclear. I had planned on using Meg MF compound and pad...then follow up with 205 and a white pad and then top with Pinnacle Souvenir wax. The owner wrote me today though saying he read somewhere on MOL that using megs MF system on a re-clear is a bad idea. I asked him to send me the link just a few minutes ago, but while i wait i figured I'd ask here and see if anyone here has any experience w/this type of situation.

    I KINDA figured it to be like the situation on whether or not you can use the MF system with the flex 3401...some people say no...some people swear by it and have pics to back it up...but again, id like some input. soooo
    Last edited by Michael Stoops; Jul 11, 2011, 07:45 AM. Reason: family friendly language
    Wills Amstutz
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    Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

    I've personally used the MF system on my repainted truck both for a full sprin detail and to correct some damage done while I was in the college parking lot. The Meguiars recommendation for not using the MF system on repaints because they couldn't achieve a certain success rate when using it in that application.

    I think it's like any other product that can be used in detailing finishes, some react favorably and some don't. Best thing to do is give it a shot on a test spot.

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      Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

      Few wks ago my son-in law painted a car with some special metallic paint with few coats of clear. After it was wet sanded he decided to try to get rid of sand paper scratches. He ended up using Microfiber Correction system and the car looks great. No problems at all. No scratches or swirls just deep shine.
      As suggested try a small test spot first, but for us it worked great.

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        Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

        Thanks guys tahts good to hear..if anyone else has any experience in this situation please let me know
        Wills Amstutz
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        • #5
          Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

          The experience of the previous two respondents here may have zero bearing on what you'll experience with this Camaro. The DA Microfiber System is recommended for factory cured paint only. Note that's "recommended", not "don't even think about deviating from". We know people are going to experiment, and we're fine with that. Just remember that experimentation is done at your own risk.

          That said, you're going to further reduce your chances for success by using the DA Microfiber System when using the Flex since that tool tends to be overly aggressive and doesn't leave as nice a finish as a true DA will with this system. If the clear you're working on is really delicate, you'll likely end up hating the combination.

          As always, especially with a completely unknown quantity, we highly recommend doing a test spot first. You say this car has been re-cleared and that it's horribly swirled. Could very well be that this new clear is very delicate, and if that's the case, you'll know soon enough if the Flex/DA Microfiber System is overkill or not. Bring along a few options and experiment a bit with them to find what works the best, without being overly aggressive.
          Michael Stoops
          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

            Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
            The experience of the previous two respondents here may have zero bearing on what you'll experience with this Camaro. The DA Microfiber System is recommended for factory cured paint only. Note that's "recommended", not "don't even think about deviating from". We know people are going to experiment, and we're fine with that. Just remember that experimentation is done at your own risk.

            That said, you're going to further reduce your chances for success by using the DA Microfiber System when using the Flex since that tool tends to be overly aggressive and doesn't leave as nice a finish as a true DA will with this system. If the clear you're working on is really delicate, you'll likely end up hating the combination.

            As always, especially with a completely unknown quantity, we highly recommend doing a test spot first. You say this car has been re-cleared and that it's horribly swirled. Could very well be that this new clear is very delicate, and if that's the case, you'll know soon enough if the Flex/DA Microfiber System is overkill or not. Bring along a few options and experiment a bit with them to find what works the best, without being overly aggressive.
            Hey Michael!

            I was really hoping you'd chime in on this. I ABSOLUTELY was going to bring along several other options. I planned to bring 105/205, Pinnacle XMT #1and 3 as well as their advanced swirl remover.

            For pads i have LC orange and white i was going to play with as well as Hydrotech Cyan and Tangerine. And of courseeeeee i'll do a test spot, not doubt about it but i really appreciate your input. I have no clue as to how hard the clear is...he said that his painter told him the clear is PPG...which is Greek to me, I'm not hip to clear types..maybe you can add a little input on that too??
            Wills Amstutz
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              Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

              I can, PPG is the paint manufacturer and the same type that was used on my vehicle. Also the brand of paint used on Mercedes if I'm not mistaken. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that this particular clear will react the same as mine. Lots of factors will contribute to how this particular finish will react.

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                Re: Can Megs MF System be used on a Re-Clear?

                Originally posted by BS MXRacer View Post
                I can, PPG is the paint manufacturer and the same type that was used on my vehicle. Also the brand of paint used on Mercedes if I'm not mistaken. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that this particular clear will react the same as mine. Lots of factors will contribute to how this particular finish will react.
                Hm ok. Well as Michael and others have advised (and i had planned to do anyway)...i'm going to bring lots of options with and use whatever method works best. I'll be sure to post my results after the detail....be it good or bad...and show whatever process i end up doing
                Wills Amstutz
                Windows And Wheels Auto Detailing LLC
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