Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

[APR Tuned]

Before I get into this, I just want to assure meguiar's that as a customer, I'm not going anywhere. I love your products and will always use them. With that said, I tackled paint correction on my black S2000 last week. Used UC on a LC orange pad and followed up with UP on a LC green pad.

As Mike said, the UC left a bit of marring but eliminated swirling with EASE. The UP cleaned up the marring very well. Can't even being to tell you guys what a pleasure it was to work with UP. Anyway, I finished up with NXT 2.0 and it was a total nightmare. I always make sure to do a thin layer and give ample drying time but this stuff just would not come off. I really had to use some elbow grease to get wax residue off. You could tell it was still on the paint because the finish looked faded/cloudy, which it did NOT look like before the NXT application. I most likely re-introduced some defects trying to get this stuff off even with a brand new MF towel. And it left streaking everywhere too.

Anyway, enough rambling. I just want to know what you guys use for a LSP. I want a synthetic sealant, basically. Something that will last 4+ months before I have to reapply. making the car look better is an added bonus. I was thinking about UW but after all the streaking stories I've read, I'm probably going to pass. So what do you guys think? Thanks.

Greg

[Mongoose]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

Not sure this will meet your criteria but I had similar issues with NXT and UW and wound up returning to Mothers Reflections Wax and Top Coat for my LSP. The Car Wax is a mild cleaner wax while Top Coat is a pure synthetic with no cleaners and can be used as a stand alone product(which is how I use it). As for durability I'm not sure as I use this on my play car which doesn't see daily duty. Hope this helps.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

If you want to stick with Meguiar's for your LSP and want something synthetic, go with M20 Polymer Sealant. Technically it's a bit of a carnauba/synthetic hybrid, with very mild cleaning ability (which could actually be a very good thing on your very delicate Honda paint). Joe Fernandez (Superior Shine) seems to be a huge fan of it, if that carries any weight with you. It goes on very easily, with a thin layer being easy to achieve - it dries quickly and wipe off is a piece of cake.

[APR Tuned]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

If you want to stick with Meguiar's for your LSP and want something synthetic, go with M20 Polymer Sealant. Technically it's a bit of a carnauba/synthetic hybrid, with very mild cleaning ability (which could actually be a very good thing on your very delicate Honda paint). Joe Fernandez (Superior Shine) seems to be a huge fan of it, if that carries any weight with you. It goes on very easily, with a thin layer being easy to achieve - it dries quickly and wipe off is a piece of cake.

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike. I would gladly give that a try. I've read that the carnauba/synthetic hybrids give good protection along with the great look of carnauba wax. And yes, Joe from SS being a big fan of it carries HUGE weight

[juliom2]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

Meguiar's Ultimate wax could be the new favorite too.....

[Garage Troll]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I would really suggest trying UW if you want longevity for a fair price. If you're looking to spend more you could always try Wolfgang DGS 3.0.

Oh, and just a thought, but next time you may not even need UC. The UP may be enough to eliminate those swirls.

[3Fitty]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I'm a long time Meguiar's user (and about everything else I can get my hands on). Best synthetic sealant I've ever used is Blackfire Wet Diamond. Unfortunately the company that manufactures the product just went out of business, although I'm sure you can find sellers elsewhere.

The poster above recommended Wolfgang, which is an awesome product and WAS my favorite, until I used BFWD. You will just be amazed at how easy it is to use and how slick it leaves your paint. I know there are a lot of BFWD users here (and many who are much more accomplished than I am), but I can assure you it is a great product.

[APR Tuned]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I would really suggest trying UW if you want longevity for a fair price. If you're looking to spend more you could always try Wolfgang DGS 3.0.

Oh, and just a thought, but next time you may not even need UC. The UP may be enough to eliminate those swirls.

Do you mean the original swirls or the ones I MAY have reintroduced when trying to wipe the wax off? M205 on an 8207 pad didn't do the trick. I know I made a HUGE jump in aggressiveness by going to a 5.5" orange LC pad and UC but I wanted these swirls GONE on the first shot and that's exactly what happened

The finish is almost there. I may go one more pass with UP on some sort of finishing pad. Thanks for the BFWD suggestion. I'll definitely look into it.

[1970judge]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I had a similar issue with NXT. I just went back to Gold Class and all is well.

[jaymz]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

BlackFire Wet Diamond, hands down! Soooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to apply and remove, and such a slick, wet-look finish. The company who makes it says the product will continue to be around.

Jim

[Buck91]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I have a question, maybe somebody can shed some light on.

I have used NXT a fair amount on a couple different cars, on mountain bikes (new builds) and on various car and mountain bike wheels. I've used it on clear coat surfaces, on anodized surfaces (smooth and peened) and on plastic surfaces. The one thing I've found is that every time I have used it it went on and spread very easily and it removed extremely easy. I've seen some reports of people having a tough time removing it and I jsut can't image why. What would some possible reason be for that? Just different paints and such, different techniques or maybe its environmental?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

I have a question, maybe somebody can shed some light on.

I have used NXT a fair amount on a couple different cars, on mountain bikes (new builds) and on various car and mountain bike wheels. I've used it on clear coat surfaces, on anodized surfaces (smooth and peened) and on plastic surfaces. The one thing I've found is that every time I have used it it went on and spread very easily and it removed extremely easy. I've seen some reports of people having a tough time removing it and I jsut can't image why. What would some possible reason be for that? Just different paints and such, different techniques or maybe its environmental?

Usually when we see a situation where NXT is being less than easy to use it's down to a couple of things; it's either been applied too heavy or it hasn't been allowed to dry long enough. That dry time will vary with temperature and humidity, and sometimes a surprisingly long dry time will do the trick. In drier climates we've seen it left on the paint for several hours (as much as 6 or 7 hours) and wipe off was a piece of cake. In higher humidity areas that can lead to problems though, as the hazed product on the surface can start drawing moisture out of the air and after several hours it's difficult to wipe off. Higher humidity areas might have issues with streaking or smearing if removal occurs too soon after application so stretching that dry time to 45 minutes or so can help. But a thick application here isn't going to help you at all.

[BlackScreaminMachine]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

BlackFire Wet Diamond, hands down! Soooooooooooooooooooooooo easy to apply and remove, and such a slick, wet-look finish. The company who makes it says the product will continue to be around.

Jim

Too bad they do not make it anymore and your not going to find it either.

as for NXT, the stuff works great. Proper technique is required. I will say using Ult Wax (paste) has made it easier to use due to what properties it has. Comes off ultra easy.

[ogbatman]

Re: Looking for a new LSP. Won't use NXT 2.0 again.

When I ran into that issue with NXT I just sprayed QD on a towel and it would come right off.