Petroleum Distillates

[The Dodge]

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Okay, Michelin Tire's finally called me back and the rep/tech I spoke with told me that, "Michelin does not approve any tire dressing other than there own and that if there dressing is not available, you must use dressings that are, Rubber Based(?), Water Based and do not contain Petroleum or Silicone." I think I am more confused now. . . . . . . .so, I'm going to head over to Discount Tires(10 minutes away) and see if they can tell me whether my cracking is caused from Tire Dressings or whether it is in fact a defect in Michelin's tire's which I hope Michelin will stand behind there product.

[Poki]

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It was Mike Phillips.

Petroleum Distillates in Rubber & Vinyl Protectants

No petroleum tire protectant

Thanks, that's the one I was trying to recall......

[joaks]

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Thanks for the links, PC!!

I'm surprised to read of antiozonants in meg's tire products. I wonder if this applies to the Endurance line (I don't think it says anything on the label).

[the other pc]

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I wish I could remember who it was that answered this question some time ago and hope he'll see this and give us his knowledge....

It was Mike Phillips.

Petroleum Distillates in Rubber & Vinyl Protectants

No petroleum tire protectant

[joaks]

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I did find this on a sumo datasheet:
DO NOT APPLY SIDEWALL DRESSING OR
HARSH CHEMICAL CLEANERS

:-(

[BlackScreaminMachine]

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Ive done two Honda Accords that had the same cracking around the wall .... one customer a friend took his car back to Discount Tire and received 80% pro rate discount on a new set ... apparently this is a known problem of Michelins

Which generally is a clear indication of a bad batch and they are trying to not to pay on claims if they do not need to. IF a manufacture is throwing this garbage at you then they are trying to BS you into no using the warrentee.

I'd lie and said that you were using one of the approved products. If they want to test and spend more money then it cost for the tires then it's their own stupidity.

I would wash the tires clean, use some bleech wite and re wash and then ship them and find out what they will do for you.

[joaks]

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Blueline: what kind of Endurance did you use? Supposedly the gel and spray (non-aerosol) are water based and should have minimal effect on bloom.

We just got new sumo's and yoko's and I want them to last. I just emailed sumo for recommendations and am trying to email yokohama right now (if only the page would work)...

[Blueline]

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Then the only 3 I could find that were Petroleum Distillate free was 303 Aerospace Protectant, DuPont ****** Tire Shine and Griot's Vinyl & Rubber Dressing.

Just a FYI, the "browning" y'all are talking about is a natural release of a chemical that is in the tire to protect the tire from the ozone's. It is called "blooming".

I used Megs Endurance and it made my Micheline's turn brown or bloom. Maybe just a coincidence, I don't know. Never really liking shiny tires anyway, I went to 303 and that stuff is great. No shine, no blooming, just the nice carbon black of a brand new tire. Tires are four years old and not a crack...look new.

[The Dodge]

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So far, no one has asked the age of the tires that are "cracking"?? how old are they? Driven daily? garaged or not?

6 months on both vehicle tires, both vehicles driven daily, her car is garaged and my truck is outside in the elements. We live in Olympia, WA.

[fredcandetail]

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Ive done two Honda Accords that had the same cracking around the wall .... one customer a friend took his car back to Discount Tire and received 80% pro rate discount on a new set ... apparently this is a known problem of Michelins

[Poki]

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So far, no one has asked the age of the tires that are "cracking"?? how old are they? Driven daily? garaged or not?

[The Dodge]

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Ops, sorry I duplicated the message.

Nope, that was me! I thought since I had taken to long to reply that my posting was gone, so I reposted pretty much the same thing. I too, have been using Hot Shine Tire Spray(for like the past 4 years) and never thought twice about it until I got new tires for my Ram(yeah its got a Hemi) and my wife's Magnum(no Hemi. . .just the wimpy 2.7L) and I noticed some cracking on the side wall's. I just assumed(i know what that does) that due to the fact I was using products that had Petroleum Distillates, it was causing the side walls to deteriorate and then after reading something about it on Michelin's site was like putting the nail in the coffin!! But I'm still not sold on facts that Petroleum Distillate's are bad for the tire. I'm going to order a bottle of Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner and see what it looks like. I just want to make sure I'm using the right products for things like tires!!

[_Rodrigo]

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Just to clarify, Nissan don't even mention any Tire maker, which turns their recomendations even more generic for all tire brands.

[_Rodrigo]

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Ops, sorry I duplicated the message.

[_Rodrigo]

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I would like to hear from the experts too.

I will enter this thread saying I understand the point of those that argue when Megs make a product then is good to use on our cars specially being all of us aware of Meguiars tradition and reliability. Also, I just not only understand but this was MY starting point.

I was surprised when reading the Owners manual from my Sentra that Nissan does not recommend any tire dressing because this product will react with a kind of a coat ( applied by the tire maker in the factory which is supposed to reduce tire discoloration ) and the residual from this reaction will be released and stain the paint. Don't know if this reaction can also cause any crack in tires. I am not an expert and believe me this is the explaination in the manual and I am just translating here from portuguese to english.

IF, continues the manual, the owner wants to use a dressing AT HIS OWN risk, Nissan recommends to use a water based product.

I decided to enter this discussion because HOT SHINE TIRE GEL in my opinion is the best tire dressing I ever used in terms of appearence and durability, I use this product three to four times per mounth on my cars and I don't want to stop using it. Reading the label in the back of bottle, it says the product is 'combustible'. Based on this writing, the consistency and durability of the product, I think I can deduce HOT SHINE gel is not water based.

I am using this HOT SHINE TIRE gel from 7 to 8 months and I understand maybe it is not enough usage to notice any tire degradation or even paint stain ( considering that theory ) due to the product. No problem at all until now.

When the manufacturer says one thing, Tire maker says other and Meguiars says it is safe, of course the consumer will be naturally confused. I think it is hard to create a common sense but I do prefer to believe Meguiars will make a safe and effective product as always. To me detailing a car without dressing the tires sounds like an incomplete job and I like so much the look of my tires after applying Hot Shine